MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-03-18

2009-03-18T07:14:15  *** stargamih is now known as stargaming
2009-03-18T08:28:00  <dreimark> moin
2009-03-18T08:46:34  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-03-18T09:09:32  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can it be that sharing underlay makes only trouble for farmconfig ?
2009-03-18T09:09:56  <dreimark> I do share underlay without a farmconfig and I don't see the link problems
2009-03-18T10:13:32  <ThomasWaldmann> i think if a page cache gets built in wiki A, then links to other wiki pages will also be in wiki A.
2009-03-18T10:13:49  <ThomasWaldmann> if you look at that page from wiki B then, links might go to wiki A.
2009-03-18T10:18:56  <TheSheep> .oO(keep cache in separate directory...)
2009-03-18T10:21:19  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: hi. I am currently trying to find where the "/ " as separator for the pagelocation comes from.
2009-03-18T10:21:37  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: modernized theme has its own title method
2009-03-18T10:21:45  <ThomasWaldmann> A user on the mailing list was asking about that space after the slash.
2009-03-18T10:22:17  <TheSheep> but there is no space
2009-03-18T10:22:41  <dreimark> may be IE makes a space ?
2009-03-18T10:23:04  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: well, at least it LOOKS like a space
2009-03-18T10:23:26  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I don't see something looking like a space
2009-03-18T10:24:13  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: the modern (but not modernized) theme has a padding inserted with css
2009-03-18T10:24:39  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, sorry, it is in modern, not modernized
2009-03-18T10:26:17  <TheSheep> #pagelocation li:after { content: "/ "; }
2009-03-18T10:26:19  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, I suggested simply using modernized theme. :)
2009-03-18T10:26:30  <TheSheep> in the screen.css in modern
2009-03-18T10:27:46  <ThomasWaldmann> I submitted that to the ML also.
2009-03-18T10:28:07  <ThomasWaldmann> iirc it was done because of wrapping long lines or so
2009-03-18T10:29:04  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, today evening the SOC project list will be published
2009-03-18T10:30:25  <TheSheep> I wonder if it would be possible to make a system in which you could look at some change, and get to the explanation (bug report or just comment) of why it was made
2009-03-18T10:30:30  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: hmm on none of my wiki's where I share  '/srv/share/moin/underlay' I have this situation
2009-03-18T10:30:57  <TheSheep> I suppose the 'blame' feature of hgweb helps here, as long as you have meaningful commit messages
2009-03-18T10:32:04  <dreimark> TheSheep: that is named  tracking
2009-03-18T10:33:54  <TheSheep> I suppose I'm reinventing the wheel
2009-03-18T10:34:19  <dreimark> but it does only track if one gives all that information it needs
2009-03-18T10:36:36  <TheSheep> of course
2009-03-18T10:37:05  <TheSheep> I suppose what I meant was an easy way to notice and fill in any missing information
2009-03-18T10:37:23  <TheSheep> you can't go back and edit commit messages
2009-03-18T10:49:09  * ThomasWaldmann tries to make meaningful commit messages
2009-03-18T10:52:43  <TheSheep> I'm notoriously bad at it
2009-03-18T11:01:58  <ThomasWaldmann> shit. my new notebook arrived but the postman couldn't get his creditcard terminal working, so he had to leave with it again. 8-|
2009-03-18T11:02:54  <ThomasWaldmann> he even had a redundant one, but that also was failing...
2009-03-18T11:08:45  <TheSheep> technology...
2009-03-18T11:09:13  <TheSheep> my friend has a saying: "a little bit of human, and the technology gets lost..."
2009-03-18T11:12:33  <dreimark> omg
2009-03-18T15:51:27  <ThomasWaldmann> yay, it arrived
2009-03-18T15:51:36  <ThomasWaldmann> (try 3)
2009-03-18T15:55:40  <dreimark> :)
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2009-03-18T19:41:41  <TheSheep> so... where's the gsoc list?
2009-03-18T19:45:18  <waldi> you have to wait another 15 minutes
2009-03-18T19:56:31  <TheSheep> bummer
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2009-03-18T20:29:46  <TheSheep> so... I can't see moin on the list :(
2009-03-18T20:45:40  <waldi> i do
2009-03-18T20:45:48  <TheSheep> oh?
2009-03-18T20:46:45  <TheSheep> the yadded it
2009-03-18T20:46:47  <TheSheep> cool
2009-03-18T20:52:53  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5151:5d94d48eb350 1.9-dom-bblank/ (4 files in 3 dirs): remove some unused debugging related code/settings
2009-03-18T20:53:01  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5152:edb6cb2cac43 1.9-dom-bblank/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Environment variable MOIN_DEBUGGER=True will enable werkzeug's debugger for the standalone wikiserver
2009-03-18T20:53:02  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5153:619b1dacf4ee 1.9-dom-bblank/ (2 files in 2 dirs): remove traceback_* settings, not used any more
2009-03-18T20:53:03  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5154:d8e5e9cfadf1 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (9 files in 4 dirs): always do 'from werkzeug import ...', except for contrib, exceptions, routing, script
2009-03-18T20:53:05  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5155:3a79d3ca5a83 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/web/ (contexts.py request.py): changed code to support werkzeug 0.5 (thanks to mitsuhiko for the patch)
2009-03-18T20:53:07  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5156:246ba4eecab2 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (39 files in 5 dirs): updated werkzeug to 0.5.pre20090228
2009-03-18T20:53:10  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5157:79480a001506 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (4 files in 2 dirs): upgraded werkzeug again to fix serving bug
2009-03-18T20:53:13  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5158:c6e4ccbbb1b3 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/web/ (frontend.py serving.py): simplified shared/htdocs processing
2009-03-18T20:53:29  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5159:a6461afbc0ce 1.9-dom-bblank/ (1576 files in 166 dirs): hg mv wiki/htdocs MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs
2009-03-18T20:53:30  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5160:e7f1cf9eeb96 1.9-dom-bblank/ (10 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
2009-03-18T20:53:30  <CIA-38> Static file serving built-in (see details below).
2009-03-18T20:53:30  <CIA-38> Moved wiki/htdocs to MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs.
2009-03-18T20:53:34  <CIA-38> MoinMoin.web.static has a static file serving wrapper that uses the files
2009-03-18T20:53:36  <CIA-38> from htdocs subdirectory by default (docs=True).
2009-03-18T20:53:38  <CIA-38> You can also give another path or switch off creation of that static wrapper.
2009-03-18T20:53:40  <CIA-38> See the docstring of the static package for details.
2009-03-18T20:53:42  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5161:159902268129 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (7 files in 2 dirs): upgraded werkzeug
2009-03-18T20:53:45  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5162:8456e790eb58 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (script/server/standalone.py web/serving.py): run_server param name need to match Config attribute name 'debug'
2009-03-18T20:53:50  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5163:995e39af3f7c 1.9-dom-bblank/ (7 files in 2 dirs): remove MoinMoin.support.wsgiref (not used by moin, not used by werkzeug any more)
2009-03-18T20:53:57  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5164:8a3c0c726d66 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (_tests/ldap_testbase.py auth/smb_mount.py theme/__init__.py): remove some references to py 2.3/2.4 - 2.4 is the minimum now anyway
2009-03-18T20:54:01  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5165:0e7c007f8ed9 1.9-dom-bblank/ (.hgignore wikiserverconfig.py): handle wikiserverconfig(_local) in the same way as wikiconfig(_local) (thanks to Raphael Bossek for the patch)
2009-03-18T20:54:05  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5166:9edfdbed12a8 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (6 files in 2 dirs): werkzeug updated
2009-03-18T20:54:10  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5167:158a65df340e 1.9-dom-bblank/wiki/server/wikiserverconfig.py: update the copy in wiki/server/wikiserverconfig.py with the changes from cs 0e7c007f8ed9
2009-03-18T20:54:17  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5168:7000bf88e348 1.9-dom-bblank/ (4 files in 4 dirs): MOIN_DEBUGGER=off/web/external
2009-03-18T20:54:20  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5169:c24b810500b3 1.9-dom-bblank/.hgignore: added Eclipse/PyDev files and distutils' MANIFEST to .hgignore
2009-03-18T20:54:23  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5170:16ee781ef3ad 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/serving.py: updated werkzeug
2009-03-18T20:54:26  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5171:fb5abe50c6d2 1.9-dom-bblank/ (3 files in 3 dirs): wikiconfig/farmconfig: improve values for data(_underlay)_dir, make logo work automatically, fix wiki regex samples in farmconfig
2009-03-18T20:54:32  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5172:1c60c378eb1a 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (__init__.py contrib/fixers.py contrib/lint.py serving.py): updated werkzeug
2009-03-18T20:54:41  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5173:25532a36f2b5 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: AttachFile: reordered imports
2009-03-18T20:54:44  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5174:c404a1295318 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (11 files in 3 dirs): updated werkzeug
2009-03-18T20:54:47  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5175:3c6980b5e938 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (5 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
2009-03-18T20:54:50  <CIA-38> fix new session code. remove old session code. details below.
2009-03-18T20:54:52  <CIA-38> Removed the old 1.8 session code (MoinMoin.session):
2009-03-18T20:54:56  <CIA-38> * cfg.session_handler and session_id_handler are gone (use cfg.session_service)
2009-03-18T20:54:58  <CIA-38> * cfg.anonymous_session_lifetime is gone (use cfg.cookie_lifetime)
2009-03-18T20:55:00  <CIA-38> Fixed new 1.9 session code (MoinMoin.web.session):
2009-03-18T20:55:06  <CIA-38> * cfg.cookie_lifetime is now a tuple (anon, loggedin), giving the lifetime
2009-03-18T20:55:08  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5176:554e1d780e3b 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (auth/openidrp.py user.py web/session.py): fixed anon session detection, optimized trail code
2009-03-18T20:55:13  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5177:b0319cfcb1bc 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/script/migration/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 1.6.0a mig script/converter: fixed converter bug for parser sections, added unit tests for pre and parser sections
2009-03-18T20:55:17  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5178:7fbbdd3e58a9 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/login.py: login action: fix formatting of error messages
2009-03-18T20:55:22  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5179:81598e8c735b 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: AttachFile do=view: quote filename and pagename params for EmbedObject macro call
2009-03-18T20:55:27  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5180:a306904a3620 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/unsubscribe.py: unsubscribe action: add msg types so icons get displayed
2009-03-18T20:55:32  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5181:28a5a548d6f5 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/auth/ldap_login.py: ldap auth: new name_callback param to create a custom wiki username (not the ldap login username). Thanks to Heinrich Wendel for the patch.
2009-03-18T20:55:36  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5182:716dcfb00e8e 1.9-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/theme/modernized_cms.py: added modernized_cms theme
2009-03-18T20:55:36  <TheSheep> commit-flood! XD
2009-03-18T20:55:39  <CIA-38> (25 lines omitted)
2009-03-18T20:59:48  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2009-03-18T21:03:41  <grzywacz> Don't play innocent! ;-)
2009-03-18T21:24:32  <waldi> you are innocent?
2009-03-18T22:39:48  <TheSheep> there are no innocent people, just incompetent investigators
2009-03-18T22:41:32  <grzywacz> The same applies to healthy people and doctors.
2009-03-18T22:41:53  <TheSheep> there are no doctors, just healthy people?
2009-03-18T22:44:04  <grzywacz> That, in turn, only applies to Poland.
2009-03-18T22:44:05  <grzywacz> :P
2009-03-18T22:44:21  <TheSheep> don't be sick, you'll be helathy!
2009-03-18T22:44:30  <TheSheep> nie choruj, bedziesz zdrowszy
2009-03-18T22:56:52  <dreimark> re
2009-03-18T22:57:55  <ronny> yo guys
2009-03-18T22:57:56  <ronny> sup?
2009-03-18T22:58:22  <dreimark> looks like ThomasWaldmann notebook is alive
2009-03-18T22:58:52  <TheSheep> ronny: sky
2009-03-18T22:59:26  <TheSheep> dreimark: the portable version of ThomasWaldmann human?
2009-03-18T23:03:16  <dreimark> TheSheep: ask me that in 30 years or so again may be we are all replicted then
2009-03-18T23:08:48  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: xorAxAx An overview of accepted organization applications that have not yet created their organization profile.
2009-03-18T23:09:15  * dreimark thought we have done it or is there something missing
2009-03-18T23:11:09  <TheSheep> you will be assimilated, resistance is futile
2009-03-18T23:52:10  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2009-03-18T23:52:36  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ?
2009-03-18T23:52:52  <dreimark> http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009?limit_1=50&limit_0=50&offset_0=0&offset_1=0
2009-03-18T23:53:06  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: we are set in the above list
2009-03-18T23:54:07  <dreimark> TheSheep: http://moinmo.in/PluginConceptOverhaul I've added also my ideas for the extensions repo
2009-03-18T23:56:57  <ThomasWaldmann> i am not sure what they still want...
2009-03-18T23:58:08  * dreimark has no Roles
2009-03-18T23:59:02  * ThomasWaldmann neither
2009-03-18T23:59:21  <ThomasWaldmann> but i setup myself as org admin and even have assigned a backup admin already
2009-03-18T23:59:22  * dreimark and apllying as Mentor for MM is not possible because it is not listed