MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-11-12

2008-11-12T10:17:43  <dreimark> moin
2008-11-12T12:49:29  <dreimark> re
2008-11-12T13:20:06  <CIA-58> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4801:b6d5bf04b9e6 1.8-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py: try/except/finally is 2.5+ only, use try/try/except/finally
2008-11-12T13:20:51  <CIA-58> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 4887:46f8859a707d 1.8-dom-bblank/ (1465 files in 255 dirs): Merge moin/1.9
2008-11-12T13:28:50  <waldi> took only two hours or so ...
2008-11-12T13:29:41  <waldi> now i try to find a way for text expansion (aka %) in gettext
2008-11-12T15:07:21  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: thanks for merging :)
2008-11-12T15:16:01  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: if you have time: the MoinMoin i18n code needs some rewrite anyway :D
2008-11-12T15:16:34  <waldi> time? never, but thats nothing special
2008-11-12T15:17:00  * ThomasWaldmann is at LUG meeting later today
2008-11-12T15:19:13  * waldi is still sick and preparing a paper
2008-11-12T16:01:07  * dreimark is at pyCologne in the evening
2008-11-12T16:06:24  * dreimark wonders about anonymous changes on master
2008-11-12T16:49:58  <dreimark> bbl
2008-11-12T22:46:17  *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ
2008-11-12T23:16:50  <TheSheep> did you consider adding etags to moinmoin?
2008-11-12T23:19:19  <ThomasWaldmann> current code makes header calculation problematic
2008-11-12T23:20:12  * TheSheep forgot about macros/parsers
2008-11-12T23:21:36  <ThomasWaldmann> and headers are emitted before the page is loaded/parsed/output generated
2008-11-12T23:23:27  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: that's not such a problem all you need for etag is the revision number and maybe list of links on the page
2008-11-12T23:23:55  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: list of links is now cached, right?
2008-11-12T23:24:14  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, pagelinks cache
2008-11-12T23:24:33  <ThomasWaldmann> but the etag should also depend on page content
2008-11-12T23:24:53  <TheSheep> well, you cannot change the content without changing the revision number
2008-11-12T23:25:15  <TheSheep> the idea is that etag should change when you want the cache cleared
2008-11-12T23:25:18  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, yeah
2008-11-12T23:25:43  <ThomasWaldmann> moin 1.9 is open for such experiments :)
2008-11-12T23:26:11  <TheSheep> but macros/parsers and maybe dynamic parts of themes are a problem
2008-11-12T23:28:36  <ThomasWaldmann> the dependency stuff also could get some enhancements
2008-11-12T23:33:30  <TheSheep> yeah, for example you could track the 'revision' of namespace, and include it in etags of pages that have macros depending on namespace