MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-08-19

2008-08-19T00:05:13  <zenhase> dreimark: i did not investigate that further yet
2008-08-19T00:05:37  <zenhase> dreimark: they are down from 8x normal to 2x normal on thomas machine
2008-08-19T00:05:56  <zenhase> we put this for now, after gsoc, to investigate further
2008-08-19T00:06:10  <xorAxAx> should be easily spottable using a profiler then
2008-08-19T00:08:42  <zenhase> yeah
2008-08-19T00:09:20  <zenhase> i will integrate the profiler middlewares in the startup scripts then
2008-08-19T00:09:39  <xorAxAx> uhh
2008-08-19T00:09:50  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-08-19T00:10:15  <xorAxAx> i think the main problem is the request instantiation
2008-08-19T00:10:28  <xorAxAx> but with thomas changes removed, it doesnt happen too often
2008-08-19T00:10:34  <xorAxAx> weird weird
2008-08-19T00:11:41  <zenhase> oO
2008-08-19T00:12:04  <dennda> zenhase: if you merge my branch, your tests will be faster :)
2008-08-19T00:12:11  <dennda> (and I don't have to do all that ugly request stuff))
2008-08-19T00:12:40  <xorAxAx> zenhase: well
2008-08-19T00:12:50  <xorAxAx> zenhase: most tests are completly unrelated to your changes
2008-08-19T00:12:55  <xorAxAx> zenhase: yet they seem to run slower
2008-08-19T00:13:14  <xorAxAx> zenhase: so the first question is if the difference is visible when profiling normal requests or whether it is test specific
2008-08-19T00:13:55  <zenhase> hmm yeah
2008-08-19T01:39:06  <dennda> hg !??!
2008-08-19T01:40:05  <dennda> The reason for two test failures is, that tests/wiki/data/plugin/parser is missing. I created those directories, but neither hg status nor hg add seem to care
2008-08-19T01:56:51  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: abort: no suitable response from remote hg!
2008-08-19T01:59:42  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: which repo are you using?
2008-08-19T02:00:09  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: I cloned 1.8-storage and wanted to do "hg outgoing" and then "hg push", both yield the same error
2008-08-19T02:01:19  <dennda> the reason I cannot add that directory is, that hg is not able to track empty directories :-/
2008-08-19T02:10:20  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: works for me
2008-08-19T02:10:40  <dennda> what? outgoing / pushing or adding empty directories? :)
2008-08-19T02:10:56  <ThomasWaldmann> hg out
2008-08-19T02:14:48  <dennda> hm
2008-08-19T02:15:36  <dennda> lemme try with manually providing a push-location. what would that be again?
2008-08-19T06:41:39  <byeongweon_t60> xorAxAx: could I push my repos to gui editor branch after tagging gsoc end?
2008-08-19T06:45:41  <CIA-54> Byeongweon [tasyblue@gmail.com] default * 4022:6502ec387b1f 1.8-guieditor-mbyeongweon/MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: add some tests for preformatted syntax
2008-08-19T06:45:42  <CIA-54> Byeongweon [tasyblue@gmail.com] default * 4023:0a89675b96f1 1.8-guieditor-mbyeongweon/docs/CHANGES.guieditor: add CHANGE.guieditor
2008-08-19T06:45:43  <CIA-54> Byeongweon [tasyblue@gmail.com] default * 4024:7f7772c9b922 1.8-guieditor-mbyeongweon/.hgtags: merged guieditor branch
2008-08-19T08:19:45  <dreimark> moin
2008-08-19T08:20:24  <dreimark> zenhase: they are much much slower on my ram disk (10mins)
2008-08-19T08:34:32  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-08-19T09:16:00  <PawelPacana> moin
2008-08-19T13:00:46  <byeongweon_t60> ThomasWaldmann: I'm sorry but my internet line's status not good
2008-08-19T13:01:29  <byeongweon_t60> could I have first speaker this meeting?
2008-08-19T13:05:36  <zenhase> moin
2008-08-19T13:05:53  <byeongweon_t60> moin
2008-08-19T13:05:56  <zenhase> is the meeting scheduled for today? :o
2008-08-19T13:06:02  <byeongweon_t60> zenhase: hehe
2008-08-19T13:06:13  <byeongweon_t60> that's what I want to ask.
2008-08-19T13:06:20  <zenhase> well, i don't think it is
2008-08-19T13:06:52  <zenhase> it's 1305 CEST and there is nothing really going on here ;)
2008-08-19T13:07:15  <xorAxAx> byeongweon_t60: off by 24 hours
2008-08-19T13:07:24  <xorAxAx> byeongweon_t60: also you may push as much as you like, until eternity
2008-08-19T13:07:34  <xorAxAx> byeongweon_t60: i dont think that thomas will revoke commit privs :)
2008-08-19T13:08:00  <zenhase> until eternity?
2008-08-19T13:08:05  <byeongweon_t60> xorAxAx: ok.
2008-08-19T13:08:21  <zenhase> xorAxAx: are you a highlander?
2008-08-19T13:08:27  <byeongweon_t60> xorAxAx: what you say is I can commit more bug fixes?
2008-08-19T13:08:35  <zenhase> byeongweon_t60: of course
2008-08-19T13:08:52  <xorAxAx> zenhase: for eternity of course
2008-08-19T13:08:59  <xorAxAx> byeongweon_t60: anything you like
2008-08-19T13:09:18  <xorAxAx> you could also commit stuff like everyone else, like e.g. new bugs. would be less good, though
2008-08-19T13:09:24  <byeongweon_t60> even if gsoc period is done, I want to fix more bug and make gui editor useful than previous version.
2008-08-19T13:09:28  <xorAxAx> cool
2008-08-19T13:09:40  <zenhase> that's the spirit :)
2008-08-19T13:11:06  <byeongweon_t60> xorAxAx: anyway. there is no meeting today?
2008-08-19T13:11:14  <xorAxAx> byeongweon_t60: tomorrow
2008-08-19T13:11:20  <byeongweon_t60> oh.
2008-08-19T13:11:49  <byeongweon_t60> today is tuesday!!!
2008-08-19T13:12:02  <xorAxAx> yep, even in south korea :)
2008-08-19T13:12:14  <byeongweon_t60> hehe. I confuse what today is
2008-08-19T13:13:33  <byeongweon_t60> actually, I'm stand on outside of neighborhood's house.
2008-08-19T13:13:57  <xorAxAx> :)
2008-08-19T13:14:18  <byeongweon_t60> my internet doesn't work now. so I try to find other wireless connection. :)
2008-08-19T13:14:18  <xorAxAx> no benches? :)
2008-08-19T13:14:32  <byeongweon_t60> yes. :-(
2008-08-19T13:14:39  <byeongweon_t60> standing
2008-08-19T13:15:18  <byeongweon_t60> hehe. see you tommorow xorAxAx
2008-08-19T13:15:45  <byeongweon_t60> I should came back my home and doing some work.
2008-08-19T13:29:28  <zenhase> standing with a t60? not the best notebook for airborne typing
2008-08-19T14:01:14  <dreimark> lol Microsoft-free Friday
2008-08-19T14:01:17  <dreimark> http://buecher.lingoworld.de/apache2/showdir.php?id=676
2008-08-19T14:42:43  * dennda already wondered...
2008-08-19T14:42:49  <dennda> Meeting is tomorrow... :)
2008-08-19T14:48:35  <zenhase> for your entertainment: http://torrentfreak.com/ioc-wants-olympic-torrents-off-the-pirate-bay/
2008-08-19T14:54:26  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i will be likely very busy working at a customer's network equipment tomorrow at meeting time.
2008-08-19T14:55:09  <ThomasWaldmann> so if I am not here, just do it without me. I'll read the stuff in the evening then.
2008-08-19T15:34:34  <dennda> anybody at froscon?
2008-08-19T15:44:39  * ThomasWaldmann not
2008-08-19T15:45:38  <TheSheep> Sankt Augustin?
2008-08-19T15:45:42  <TheSheep> where's that?
2008-08-19T15:46:26  <TheSheep> ah, near Colony
2008-08-19T15:47:02  <dennda> bonn afaict
2008-08-19T15:47:44  <TheSheep> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Sankt+Augustin&sll=36.738884,-95.625&sspn=71.264109,104.238281&ie=UTF8&ll=51.227528,6.998291&spn=3.612038,6.514893&z=7
2008-08-19T15:47:56  <TheSheep> right
2008-08-19T15:48:55  <TheSheep> bleh, everything's in German
2008-08-19T15:51:51  * dreimark not
2008-08-19T15:52:09  <dreimark> but pycologne offers a python course for beginners
2008-08-19T15:52:40  <dennda> yes, but I don't consider myself beginner anymore. At least I know how to indent my code :)
2008-08-19T15:52:43  <dreimark> on saturday and sunday from 10:00 - 12:30
2008-08-19T15:53:09  <dreimark> dennda: definitly may be you want to help them teaching ;)
2008-08-19T15:53:26  <dreimark> or you know people who are interested in python
2008-08-19T15:53:47  <dennda> actually, none :)
2008-08-19T15:54:08  <dennda> "I don't use languages that dictate me how to indent my code"
2008-08-19T15:54:15  <dennda> usually translates to
2008-08-19T15:54:21  <dennda> "I don't want to indent my code at all"
2008-08-19T16:00:32  <dreimark> haha
2008-08-19T16:01:26  <dreimark> back to "Lochkarten"
2008-08-19T18:45:59  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: what do you think, just pull all changesets from the gui editor repo into 1.8 main repo or rather apply a single patch?
2008-08-19T18:47:31  <xorAxAx> huh, we have dvcs, so we pull all :)
2008-08-19T18:47:42  <xorAxAx> or do you see any disadvantages?
2008-08-19T18:48:44  <ThomasWaldmann> well, I think there were at least 2 fckeditor upgrades (nuking all files, recreating all files) we don't need in the end
2008-08-19T18:49:14  <xorAxAx> hmm, but its probably not too big
2008-08-19T18:49:24  <xorAxAx> but indeed ...
2008-08-19T18:49:42  <xorAxAx> but there are a few single commits we dont want to throw away
2008-08-19T18:50:07  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, maybe better we just pull all
2008-08-19T18:50:09  <xorAxAx> so as long hg doesnt have a way to remove changesets that dont have any effect in the end, we should pull all
2008-08-19T18:51:26  <waldi> xorAxAx: rebase=
2008-08-19T18:51:36  <waldi> transplant extension?
2008-08-19T18:52:31  <xorAxAx> can transplant do that?
2008-08-19T18:52:38  <xorAxAx> no idea, then this is probably the solution :)
2008-08-19T18:52:57  <waldi> it can do mostly anything with the changesets
2008-08-19T18:55:11  <xorAxAx> so that would mean branching again from the initial cs, transplanting the old ones manually to the new branch, merging and pulling
2008-08-19T18:56:31  <waldi> no, branching the current 1.8 repo, transplanting anything on top. you can remove/merge changesets during that process
2008-08-19T18:57:19  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx:       * add some features for improve user experience
2008-08-19T18:57:24  <xorAxAx> i dont see why that would be advantegorous
2008-08-19T18:57:27  <ThomasWaldmann> any clue what that means?
2008-08-19T18:58:02  <xorAxAx> no idea what he means specifically, no
2008-08-19T18:59:19  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: shall we keep the gui editor switching off hint under "Known main issues" or do you think it is bearable now?
2008-08-19T18:59:45  <xorAxAx> not sure, we dont have any concrete test set of documents
2008-08-19T19:00:04  <xorAxAx> that resembles real use cases
2008-08-19T19:00:24  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so i keep it for now
2008-08-19T19:08:16  <CIA-54> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4025:24ef81d2b5f0 1.8-guieditor-mbyeongweon/docs/ (CHANGES CHANGES.guieditor): integrated GUI editor changes into main CHANGES file
2008-08-19T19:15:57  <CIA-54> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4021:e63067d188eb 1.8/.hgtags: tagged SOC2008-END
2008-08-19T19:16:36  <ThomasWaldmann> heh, my dupe filter works X) that was the merge of gui editor branch -> main
2008-08-19T19:21:03  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: moon can now work in moin/1.8 main repo
2008-08-19T19:21:10  <xorAxAx> ok
2008-08-19T19:21:17  <ThomasWaldmann> (only)
2008-08-19T20:12:54  <dreimark> re
2008-08-19T20:44:53  * ThomasWaldmann writes a fileserving backend
2008-08-19T21:04:56  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: you didn't read all your docstrings
2008-08-19T21:05:23  <dennda> umm? which did I forget?
2008-08-19T21:05:33  <ThomasWaldmann> StoredRevision
2008-08-19T21:05:52  <dennda> hm lemme check
2008-08-19T21:07:07  <dennda> hm what do you think is missing?
2008-08-19T21:07:43  <ThomasWaldmann> read it, line by line, as the checklist told
2008-08-19T21:10:23  <dennda> __setitem__ could have @raise: ... but what else?
2008-08-19T21:12:29  <ThomasWaldmann> init tells about NewRevision
2008-08-19T21:13:02  <dennda> urgh
2008-08-19T21:16:16  <dreimark> bbl