MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-07-12

2008-07-12T00:34:24  <dreimark> gn
2008-07-12T00:34:40  <dennda> good night. /me falls asleep, too
2008-07-12T00:52:46  <xorAxAx> byegonweon: hi, you still havent submitted your summary
2008-07-12T01:20:21  <byegonweon> xorAxAx: moin.
2008-07-12T01:22:30  * johill plays dirty tricks with the C preprocessor
2008-07-12T01:22:46  <byegonweon> xorAxAx: I had trip to my hometown these days. anyway I try to find summary you told me. I can't found that. so could you tell me what that summary is?
2008-07-12T01:28:21  <xorAxAx> byegonweon: see the announcement mails you get by google :)
2008-07-12T01:28:45  <xorAxAx> byegonweon: they tell you that you should do something to be eligible to get the money :-)
2008-07-12T01:31:01  <byegonweon> xorAxAx: I didn't get any mail from google maybe they announce it from group or spamed it :) I'll check it.
2008-07-12T01:31:20  <byegonweon> xorAxAx: are't you sleeping?
2008-07-12T01:32:15  <xorAxAx> byegonweon: its 16:32 :)
2008-07-12T01:32:20  <xorAxAx> PST
2008-07-12T02:26:53  <starshine> chirp
2008-07-12T02:26:59  <starshine> xorAxAx: ping
2008-07-12T04:46:54  <emgent> hello there.
2008-07-12T04:46:58  <emgent> someone up ?
2008-07-12T04:49:08  <emgent> xorAxAx ping.
2008-07-12T05:34:24  <TheSheep> emgent: just say what's on your mind :)
2008-07-12T05:34:49  <emgent> TheSheep: i cant.
2008-07-12T05:34:53  <emgent> please query.
2008-07-12T05:43:52  <emgent> TheSheep: when you came back please ping me, thanks
2008-07-12T07:23:07  <dreimark> moin
2008-07-12T07:24:26  <dreimark> hi emgent
2008-07-12T07:27:56  <dreimark> bbl
2008-07-12T07:34:54  <johill> emgent: there's no custom user support in this channel either
2008-07-12T08:53:48  <mmihaljevic> moin
2008-07-12T09:01:50  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I have exchanged some money on the desk
2008-07-12T09:02:17  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: hi
2008-07-12T09:02:30  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you mean at the reception?
2008-07-12T09:02:37  <dreimark> yeah
2008-07-12T09:02:37  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: helllo
2008-07-12T09:03:07  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: enough for us 2 or shall i also get some there?
2008-07-12T09:03:08  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do you have checked out ?
2008-07-12T09:03:14  <ThomasWaldmann> not yet
2008-07-12T09:03:33  <dreimark> I'm currently in my room, packing
2008-07-12T09:03:50  <ThomasWaldmann> heard that we need to do until 12, so i guess i'll do in 1-2h
2008-07-12T09:04:09  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I've exchangd 50E should be enough for us
2008-07-12T09:04:37  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks
2008-07-12T09:12:02  <dreimark> bbl
2008-07-12T10:41:37  <dreimark> moin
2008-07-12T10:43:43  * dennda wonders what emgents top-secret-mission is :)
2008-07-12T10:47:08  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: ping
2008-07-12T10:47:12  <dreimark> dennda: me too
2008-07-12T10:50:38  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: here I am, went to a bank but it was crowd
2008-07-12T10:51:50  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: r u there
2008-07-12T10:59:20  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: do you have read my comments on the wiki page
2008-07-12T10:59:51  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: about the cache and wikidicts
2008-07-12T10:59:52  <mmihaljevic> ?
2008-07-12T11:00:00  <mmihaljevic> if that, yes
2008-07-12T11:00:13  <mmihaljevic> and I took a look at the request
2008-07-12T11:00:43  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: did you mean on the  def getDicts(self): method in request __init__
2008-07-12T11:01:22  <mmihaljevic> but that DICTS_DATA is still a bit confusing
2008-07-12T11:05:16  * mmihaljevic searchs for it
2008-07-12T11:21:37  * mmihaljevic also sees one answer
2008-07-12T11:21:46  <mmihaljevic> s/answer/question
2008-07-12T11:27:52  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: cache.content is the data of the cached object
2008-07-12T11:28:14  <mmihaljevic> ok
2008-07-12T11:28:44  <dreimark> but anyway I think this code needs to be replaced by something new
2008-07-12T11:30:08  <mmihaljevic> hm.. ok you mean the currently reading data from the cache in the wikidicts?
2008-07-12T11:31:26  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: do you have figured out how to add a flag to the group backends for solving UpdateGroup
2008-07-12T11:33:56  <dreimark> a somehow working ldap group backend would be nice too
2008-07-12T11:34:28  <mmihaljevic> well I was thinking to add a flag update_group to a backend config (or some better name) which will have true/false value, but my problem of thinking was what if I use ldap group backend only how to handle that, should I than use wikigroup backend also
2008-07-12T11:34:42  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: ok I will work on ldap group backend
2008-07-12T11:34:45  <mmihaljevic> also
2008-07-12T11:35:34  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: only this evening I'm not at home
2008-07-12T11:35:45  <mmihaljevic> but whole day I will work on it
2008-07-12T11:39:12  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: one other thing before
2008-07-12T11:39:28  <dreimark> do you have checked your wikibackend code on a real wiki with
2008-07-12T11:39:36  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: sure
2008-07-12T11:39:45  <dreimark> different users and different groups
2008-07-12T11:39:52  <dreimark> whith different rights
2008-07-12T11:39:59  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: that wasn't an answer for a wiki
2008-07-12T11:40:15  <mmihaljevic> ok I will do that with different users/groups/rights
2008-07-12T11:43:00  <dreimark> group which does not exist
2008-07-12T11:43:07  <dreimark> add group with a user
2008-07-12T11:43:17  <dreimark> check what the user can do
2008-07-12T11:43:22  <dreimark> and remove the user
2008-07-12T11:43:26  <dreimark> and check again
2008-07-12T11:43:39  <dreimark> bbl lunch
2008-07-12T11:43:42  <mmihaljevic> ok I will do that now
2008-07-12T11:43:45  <dreimark> :)
2008-07-12T11:43:54  <mmihaljevic> ok I will take a lunch a bit later
2008-07-12T12:00:33  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: ping me when you are back, I'm going to lunch too
2008-07-12T12:56:08  <mitsuhiko> zenhase: there?
2008-07-12T12:56:16  <mitsuhiko> johill: na, no time unfortunately
2008-07-12T12:56:24  <mitsuhiko> and mostly because of the frustration caused by imap
2008-07-12T12:59:17  <mitsuhiko> ThomasWaldmann: ping
2008-07-12T13:24:42  <johill> mitsuhiko: frustration caused by imap? what's wrong with it?
2008-07-12T13:25:34  <mitsuhiko> it's a very complex and stupid format not implemented in python except for twisted words which requires asynchronous processing all the way down
2008-07-12T13:32:11  <johill> hm?
2008-07-12T13:32:28  <johill> I've always used imaplib
2008-07-12T13:39:49  <mmihaljevic> re from lunch
2008-07-12T13:41:32  <emgent> hello
2008-07-12T13:44:35  <mmihaljevic> hi emgent
2008-07-12T13:45:59  <emgent> xorAxAx: around?
2008-07-12T13:46:09  <cortana> is there a master wiki for 1.8, or are pages pulled from master17?
2008-07-12T13:46:59  <mmihaljevic> if something has a request in the inicialization of object how can I define that in config? (or multiconfig) - it's ab my wikigroup backend, by default it is defined to use empty
2008-07-12T13:51:24  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: that's not possible try to find another way
2008-07-12T13:51:25  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-07-12T13:51:30  <ThomasWaldmann> mitsuhiko: pong
2008-07-12T13:51:51  <mitsuhiko> johill: imaplib is missing an awful lot of features
2008-07-12T13:52:05  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: ok I will look to do that like the auth is done
2008-07-12T13:52:07  <mitsuhiko> if it works, probably just because you assume the response from the server has always the same format :)
2008-07-12T13:53:11  <dreimark> cortana: we will have later on a master18 currently you can use master17 don't add new parts
2008-07-12T13:53:21  <cortana> ok
2008-07-12T13:56:14  <dreimark> emgent: you are on the moin developer channel. xorAxAx is sleeping currently and will wake up in approximate 5h. You can add a query to him and just tell what you want
2008-07-12T13:56:30  <dennda> (Or ask here)
2008-07-12T13:56:44  <dreimark> if it is third party ask on #moin
2008-07-12T14:04:44  <dreimark> mmihaljevic: I talked about UpdateGroup with ThomasWaldmann and it is ok in principal if you leave this routine as it is for the moment. You can  add a ToDo comment which tells the relation to the backends
2008-07-12T14:05:02  <dreimark> ToDo and xxx are listed  in the eclipse task list
2008-07-12T14:05:32  <mmihaljevic> dreimark: ok I will do that, thanks
2008-07-12T14:09:52  <CIA-53> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 156:a6ff4cf3dbc2 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: itext_x_arnica: removed sendcached dependency of 1.8
2008-07-12T14:12:40  <johill> mitsuhiko: ok, dunno, I only did simple things with it so far
2008-07-12T15:30:11  <CIA-53> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 157:0116eb3e1099 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: replaced baseurl/pagename by Page.url
2008-07-12T15:30:34  <CIA-53> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 158:cc31ed821e35 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: removed whitespace lines
2008-07-12T15:30:39  <CIA-53> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 159:543c75e16a5b 1.7-extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): text_x_arnica: template-itemlist removed from css
2008-07-12T15:30:39  <CIA-53> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 160:290d4eea1c0c 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: added msg for IOError exception
2008-07-12T15:30:40  <CIA-53> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 161:8eee2fa838cf 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: fixed EXIF date output
2008-07-12T15:43:22  * gizmach requests for hints about solving requests in configuration 
2008-07-12T15:53:14  <CIA-53> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3833:712e5938ec59 1.8/MoinMoin/action/ (_tests/test_sendcached.py sendcached.py): sendcached action: new function cache_key to calculate hard-to-guess cache keys from either content (parser sections) or wiki/page/file name and some metadata from filesystem (attachments)
2008-07-12T15:54:01  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: there is no request available in configuration (and it would make no sense anyway)
2008-07-12T15:55:45  <gizmach> ThomasWaldmann: well I found that out
2008-07-12T16:10:23  <dreimark> gizmach: hmm, and do you have looked already in request.__init__
2008-07-12T16:11:20  <CIA-53> Pawel Pacana <pawel.pacana@gmail.com> default * 4317:804f15bda334 1.8-mercurialbackend-ppacana/MoinMoin/storage/backends/hg.py: (hg) Temporary files refactoring.
2008-07-12T16:11:22  <CIA-53> Pawel Pacana <pawel.pacana@gmail.com> default * 4318:70492a4a4103 1.8-mercurialbackend-ppacana/MoinMoin/storage/backends/hg.py: (hg) Revision number fix.
2008-07-12T16:11:29  <CIA-53> Pawel Pacana <pawel.pacana@gmail.com> default * 4319:1eb0e036299f 1.8-mercurialbackend-ppacana/MoinMoin/storage/backends/hg.py: (hg) Revision metadata implementation transplanted from new filesystem backend. Mixed with some minor name refactorings, though.
2008-07-12T16:11:34  <CIA-53> Pawel Pacana <pawel.pacana@gmail.com> default * 4320:ec31691c674f 1.8-mercurialbackend-ppacana/MoinMoin/storage/_tests/test_backends.py: (backend tests) Unused imports cleanup. Fixed list_revisions test to contain revision metadata.
2008-07-12T16:13:34  <gizmach> dreimark: I have it open for some time
2008-07-12T16:29:17  <gizmach> dreimark: maybe I found solution, let me try something
2008-07-12T16:30:01  <PawelPacana> johill: is there any point to support item.create_revision(num) + item.commit() operations multiple times (in a loop) with no data _and_ no revision_meta changed beetwen revisions? I ask because of previous list_revisions test ported from mem backend tests. If the answer is no, then its good.
2008-07-12T16:34:31  <CIA-53> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 162:c3e0ae8ba0a0 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: randint output formatted as hex value
2008-07-12T16:41:30  <gizmach> dreimark: can I make a method in regquest/__init__.py for handling the request ? and by the configuration I will pas only group manager type?
2008-07-12T16:44:29  <dreimark> gizmach: write down the configuration line you want to use
2008-07-12T16:46:13  <gizmach> dreimark: group_manager=datastruct.GroupManager([group_wiki.GroupManagerWikiBackend(self.request), ]) I want to have this without request
2008-07-12T16:46:18  <gizmach> if you mean on it
2008-07-12T16:48:56  <gizmach> but I was thinking to have group_manager = group_wiki.GroupManagerWikiBackend and that to pass (trough the request method)
2008-07-12T16:49:11  <dreimark> gizmach:may be delay  this  stuff until we can talk tom. we have to leave in 10mins. If you want you can start with some ldap code, continuing the documentation, writing snippets for the group page backend
2008-07-12T16:49:28  * dreimark shutdowns the machine
2008-07-12T16:49:52  <gizmach> dreimark: ok I will do something I can ave progress in
2008-07-12T16:49:56  <gizmach> we can do that tom
2008-07-12T17:40:19  <emgent> dreimark: hi
2008-07-12T19:13:10  <gizmach> bbl dinner in town