MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-06-15

2008-06-15T03:19:24  <CIA-51> Pawel Pacana <pawel.pacana@gmail.com> default * 4033:69c8bc7d19dc 1.8-mercurialbackend-ppacana/MoinMoin/storage/backends/hg.py: Implemented _rename_item. Minor error raising cleanup.
2008-06-15T03:19:25  <CIA-51> Pawel Pacana <pawel.pacana@gmail.com> default * 4034:58816134897c 1.8-mercurialbackend-ppacana/MoinMoin/storage/backends/hg.py: create_item does not commit now. _commit_item and _rollback_item implementation. Fixed typos in _rename_item. Added _get_item exception argument. _rename_item docstring update.
2008-06-15T03:38:08  <PawelPacana> ThomasWaldmann: i`ll be offline on friday till evening (exam)
2008-06-15T10:16:16  <dreimark> moi
2008-06-15T10:16:19  <dreimark> n
2008-06-15T10:17:39  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you please add some engish dictionaries to the spellchecker
2008-06-15T10:17:52  <dreimark> s/engish/english/
2008-06-15T10:18:34  <dreimark> and a list of MM class,method,function names
2008-06-15T10:49:53  <dreimark> rendering issue if you have a list ending with a * and no text
2008-06-15T11:23:40  <dreimark> bbl
2008-06-15T12:10:48  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-06-15T12:12:18  <ThomasWaldmann> PawelPacana: TheSheep: then I suggest you both choose another time (at sat/sun/mon) and post it here
2008-06-15T12:15:10  <TheSheep> excuse me?
2008-06-15T12:15:17  <TheSheep> I think I'm lost
2008-06-15T12:15:45  <TheSheep> ah, found it
2008-06-15T13:33:27  <CIA-51> Pawel Pacana <pawel.pacana@gmail.com> default * 4035:fc5d0fa8c580 1.8-mercurialbackend-ppacana/MoinMoin/storage/backends/hg.py: _rename_item does not commit rename itself. Renames commited on _commit_item and reverted on _rollback_item.
2008-06-15T13:46:22  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3718:ab0f5273f8eb 1.8/ (16 files in 6 dirs): merged changesets from 1.7
2008-06-15T14:16:49  <dreimark> damn stupid url history
2008-06-15T14:17:39  <dreimark> second time unwanted unpack  ErrorOnAttachZipFileToAPageWhenSubdirectoriesAreInTheZipFile
2008-06-15T14:30:43  * ThomasWaldmann does some backport to 1.6
2008-06-15T14:41:58  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2656:61251238b94a 1.6/ (MoinMoin/parser/text_moin_wiki.py docs/CHANGES): Fix subscript parsing (was broken for cases like 'a,,1,2,,') (backport from 1.7)
2008-06-15T14:41:59  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2657:8faaeaa1f1b8 1.6/ (Makefile docs/CHANGES docs/INSTALL.html docs/UPDATE.html): Makefile: added fetching UPDATE instructions, add docs/UPDATE.html, change fetch url to master16 (backported from 1.7)
2008-06-15T14:42:00  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2658:7b2c20c6c0df 1.6/ (MoinMoin/util/filesys.py docs/CHANGES): fix traceback in filesys.py on Mac OS X when import Carbon fails (thanks to Uche Ogbuji for the patch) (backport from 1.7)
2008-06-15T14:42:02  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2659:dea30b6696d0 1.6/ (MoinMoin/config/__init__.py docs/CHANGES): add ssh protocol to url_schemas (backport from 1.7)
2008-06-15T14:42:05  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2660:378c2d4e74ce 1.6/ (MoinMoin/wikiutil.py docs/CHANGES): wikiutil: MIMETYPES_MORE extended for cfg, conf (backport from 1.7)
2008-06-15T14:42:08  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2661:8799ffc7873d 1.6/MoinMoin/search/Xapian.py: Xapian search: for mimetypes also index major and minor separately, so you can search for 'text' or 'plain'
2008-06-15T14:42:13  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2662:6740dad206af 1.6/MoinMoin/search/Xapian.py: Xapian indexing: remove crappy num regex from WikiAnalyzer
2008-06-15T14:42:34  * gizmach is away: laboratories day 
2008-06-15T14:48:35  <ThomasWaldmann> on sunday?
2008-06-15T14:49:04  <dreimark> what is the meaning of that day (I don't think it has something to do with the german Laboratorien)
2008-06-15T15:15:17  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2663:e720e8f3e264 1.6/MoinMoin/search/Xapian.py: Xapian search: improve analyzer to tokenize Foo42Bar23 into Foo, 42, Bar, 23
2008-06-15T15:15:18  <CIA-51> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2664:80f40fd38ebf 1.6/docs/CHANGES: update CHANGES with xapian related backports from 1.7
2008-06-15T15:25:56  <dreimark> bbl
2008-06-15T17:27:13  <CIA-51> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station PERIOD com> default * 4025:bcdc97118692 1.8-storage-cdenter/MoinMoin/storage/abstract.py: adding revision and newrevision class
2008-06-15T17:27:14  <CIA-51> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station PERIOD com> default * 4026:7839411f0b6b 1.8-storage-cdenter/MoinMoin/storage/ (__init__.py abstract.py): Moving code from abstract.py to __init__.py to make import statements less verbose
2008-06-15T17:39:57  <dreimark> re
2008-06-15T17:55:38  <dreimark> how can / or can I/ add an accesskey to a  comment ?
2008-06-15T17:58:06  <dreimark> or how can I switch the comments on using action=print ?
2008-06-15T18:08:28  <dennda> so now I moved the code to the __init__.py file
2008-06-15T18:08:44  <dennda> now I just need to do 'import MoinMoin.storage'?
2008-06-15T18:09:27  <dreimark> should work
2008-06-15T18:17:23  <dennda> johill: adding an has_item() method
2008-06-15T18:17:45  <dennda> doing `inverted` get_item all the time is plain annoying
2008-06-15T18:18:03  <dennda> (just trying to implement the memorybackend
2008-06-15T18:22:32  <dreimark> or from MoinMoin import storage
2008-06-15T18:23:52  <dennda> yep
2008-06-15T18:24:08  <dennda> or from MoinMoin.storage import Backend :)
2008-06-15T18:37:03  <dennda> johill: peng
2008-06-15T19:34:51  <gizmach> re
2008-06-15T19:38:03  <dreimark> hi gizmach
2008-06-15T19:38:29  <gizmach> done hg mv
2008-06-15T19:43:52  <dreimark> :)
2008-06-15T19:49:24  * gizmach is going to see what stuff to put in the high level code 
2008-06-15T19:53:04  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: FullSearch does on MM always list attachments too, can that be disbled ?
2008-06-15T20:06:26  <gizmach> is it a good idea to put in wikidicts.py on the higher level a way of reading groups like in config, for example  auth = [ldapauthenticator1 ]
2008-06-15T20:09:38  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-06-15T20:10:13  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: attachments and pages all will be items soon anyway
2008-06-15T20:10:43  <gizmach> brb
2008-06-15T20:11:35  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: but you can add mime:text if you only want to find text stuff or mime:wiki if you only want text/wiki pages
2008-06-15T20:17:43  <dreimark> gizmach: why in wikidicts and not in multiconfig?
2008-06-15T20:18:00  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ok,
2008-06-15T20:18:18  * dreimark is preparing the mercurial talk for tom.
2008-06-15T20:18:57  <dreimark> (unfortunately I have to do it in german)
2008-06-15T20:20:25  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: which talk?
2008-06-15T20:24:58  <dreimark> I have to held a presentation about version control by mercurial in our institute
2008-06-15T20:25:13  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:
2008-06-15T20:26:05  <CIA-51> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station PERIOD com> default * 4027:2062d40325d9 1.8-storage-cdenter/MoinMoin/storage/__init__.py: adding has_item() method for convenience. Is there a more beautiful implementation than the one currently chosen?
2008-06-15T20:52:09  <gizmach> dreimark: you are right I can put it in multiconfig
2008-06-15T20:58:12  <gizmach> re, something crashed
2008-06-15T20:59:12  <gizmach> dreimark: for the mercurial take a look at http://naleid.com/blog/2008/06/03/distributed-source-control-with-mercurial-presentation/
2008-06-15T20:59:42  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: what's in multiconfig?
2008-06-15T21:01:23  <gizmach> ThomasWaldmann: we were talking about putting the way of reading groups (ldap or moin regexp) to the higher level of code
2008-06-15T21:04:09  <ThomasWaldmann> and what was the outcome exactly?
2008-06-15T21:06:43  <gizmach> <dreimark> gizmach: why in wikidicts and not in multiconfig?
2008-06-15T21:24:43  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: if you want to know whether we are happy with something you put into wikiconfig, you have to be more concrete
2008-06-15T21:29:20  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: and before putting anything into multiconfig, it should first live a while in your wikiconfig_local.py
2008-06-15T21:29:37  <gizmach> ThomasWaldmann:  ok my idea was at first do put the same stuff like auth = [ldapauthenticator1, ] to wikidicts for groups to know if I'm reading groups from ldap or moin regexp
2008-06-15T21:29:42  <gizmach> or both
2008-06-15T21:29:54  <gizmach> ThomasWaldmann: yes that's ok
2008-06-15T21:30:34  <ThomasWaldmann> having something similar is ok, the details have to be seen
2008-06-15T21:41:58  <gizmach> :)
2008-06-15T21:53:14  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: PawelPacana: http://europython.org/Open Space - add your names when you take part
2008-06-15T21:53:25  <ThomasWaldmann> s/when/if/ :)
2008-06-15T23:30:07  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: <<FullSearchCached(mime:wiki title:ReimarBauer/)>>
2008-06-15T23:30:22  <dreimark> is almost what I do want, but I wonder it founds one page more now
2008-06-15T23:30:43  <dreimark> MoinMoinIdeas/ReimarBauer
2008-06-15T23:31:10  <ThomasWaldmann> that's because of the tokenizer
2008-06-15T23:32:54  <ThomasWaldmann> "ReimarBauer/" -> "ReimarBauer/" or ("Reimar" and "Bauer")  # just guessing :)
2008-06-15T23:34:32  <dreimark> yeah it does not matter to add a / as identifier for subpages of
2008-06-15T23:37:18  <ThomasWaldmann> the problem with indexed search is that you only find stuff that was indexed
2008-06-15T23:37:44  <ThomasWaldmann> thus the tokenizer tries to split words in pieces
2008-06-15T23:38:06  <ThomasWaldmann> either by using the stemmer and indexing fullword and stemmedword
2008-06-15T23:39:05  <ThomasWaldmann> or by some regexes for CamelCase, numeric stuff, mainpage/subpage
2008-06-15T23:39:13  <dreimark> Navigation(children) gives the right result
2008-06-15T23:40:06  <ThomasWaldmann> the query is also processed by the tokenizer (not sure if this is ever the best thing)
2008-06-15T23:41:42  <ThomasWaldmann> (and the stemmer)
2008-06-15T23:41:49  <dreimark> hmm, google search does ask if you want to do this if you first try "word word"
2008-06-15T23:43:23  <dreimark> htg, good night
2008-06-15T23:43:26  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.noiseforfree.com/bpython/screenshots.html
2008-06-15T23:43:29  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark