MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-06-03

2008-06-03T00:14:09  <CIA-50> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 42:7bf792c8364b 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: table is done by DataBrowserWidget
2008-06-03T00:14:27  <dreimark> gn
2008-06-03T00:14:40  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2008-06-03T08:13:26  <gizmach> moin
2008-06-03T08:27:38  <dreimark> moin
2008-06-03T08:27:44  <dreimark> hi gizmach
2008-06-03T08:27:55  <gizmach> morning dreimark
2008-06-03T08:30:04  <dreimark> does test_ldap* run on your box? because i have had some trouble with the module_path in my version
2008-06-03T08:33:34  <gizmach> dreimark: yesterday I just run it once and I got test_ldap skipped, I will look at it right now
2008-06-03T08:46:36  <dreimark> gizmach: see into the logs I have posted a pastebin which helps me
2008-06-03T08:46:51  <gizmach> :) ok
2008-06-03T08:47:21  <dreimark> it was on sunday if i remember right
2008-06-03T08:49:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-06-03T08:51:10  <gizmach> hi ThomasWaldmann
2008-06-03T08:52:11  <gizmach> dreimark: also these days when I got into game back we should probably have a little discussion
2008-06-03T08:53:45  <gizmach> dreimark: found it , yes it was sunday
2008-06-03T08:55:23  <gizmach> dreimark: I got the same problem while running test
2008-06-03T08:56:00  <gizmach> I'm going to take some food and then see why I got this stuff
2008-06-03T08:58:43  <dreimark> ok, see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/59257/
2008-06-03T08:59:07  <dreimark> we will need later on a solution without hardcoding a path there
2008-06-03T08:59:47  * dreimark has to install a M$ system currently (can check some ie stuff afterwards)
2008-06-03T09:00:11  <gizmach> :)
2008-06-03T09:00:14  <gizmach> heh
2008-06-03T09:06:34  <johill> something broke
2008-06-03T09:06:45  <johill> I get _two_ mails for every new user on my wiki
2008-06-03T09:07:32  <ThomasWaldmann> do you have 2 superuser accounts? :)
2008-06-03T09:08:20  <johill> nope
2008-06-03T09:10:26  <johill> can't have that with the same email address anyway ;)
2008-06-03T09:13:24  <johill> and only one user has UserCreatedEvent
2008-06-03T09:16:28  <zenhase> moin
2008-06-03T09:16:40  <johill> http://master.moinmo.in/?action=xmlrpc2 -> error
2008-06-03T09:17:12  <johill> oh wait, it's an xmlrpc fault
2008-06-03T09:17:19  <johill> don't think it should contain a traceback tho
2008-06-03T09:20:41  <dreimark> johill: if you have an very old userbase you can have duplicated email address
2008-06-03T09:23:02  <johill> dreimark: yeah, but I don't
2008-06-03T09:23:10  <johill> and only one user subscribes to the event, that is me
2008-06-03T09:23:18  <johill> so I don't see why I get two mails
2008-06-03T09:23:48  <johill> to find out, I guess I'd have to put a traceback into the email :)
2008-06-03T09:24:11  <johill> no time right now though
2008-06-03T10:43:32  <CIA-50> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 43:623ddf996af2 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: album after creating of all thumbnails and webnails
2008-06-03T10:43:33  <CIA-50> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 44:4bc44b6b90ba 1.7-extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): arnica_slides: removed go to page feature, because this is usually part of the theme
2008-06-03T10:43:34  <CIA-50> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 45:81df8eb31218 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/action/arnica_slides.py: arnica_slides: removed not used command
2008-06-03T10:43:34  <CIA-50> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 46:769a97fcdcbe 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: fills up columns of missing thumbnails at the end of the table
2008-06-03T10:43:37  <CIA-50> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 47:4ff94f1065a4 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: if album is not in only items list show reason
2008-06-03T11:59:10  <CIA-50> Florian Krupicka <florian.krupicka@googlemail.com> default * 3652:26dbb6d47863 1.8-wsgi-fkrupicka/MoinMoin/web/exceptions.py: Added MoinMoin specific HTTP-exceptions (SurgeProtection for example)
2008-06-03T11:59:12  <CIA-50> Florian Krupicka <florian.krupicka@googlemail.com> default * 3653:917970e17b73 1.8-wsgi-fkrupicka/MoinMoin/web/request.py: Added response object
2008-06-03T11:59:13  <CIA-50> Florian Krupicka <florian.krupicka@googlemail.com> default * 3654:0a62a439d81b 1.8-wsgi-fkrupicka/MoinMoin/ (session.py web/contexts.py wsgiapp.py web/utils.py): Trying to port some of RequestBase.__init__ to a WSGI app (very crude right now)
2008-06-03T12:03:23  <zenhase> uh, i need some breakfasrt
2008-06-03T12:03:31  <zenhase> s/fasrt/fast
2008-06-03T14:08:10  * gizmach passed one of those exams, need to wait for the other results
2008-06-03T14:08:52  <TheSheep> gizmach: congrats
2008-06-03T14:27:46  <gizmach> TheSheep: thx, it was the hardest one
2008-06-03T14:38:22  <dreimark> gizmach: \o/ congrats
2008-06-03T14:44:56  * zenhase is getting a bit nervous too
2008-06-03T14:45:08  <zenhase> i have a presentation on thursday
2008-06-03T15:02:36  <gizmach> zenhase: good luck
2008-06-03T15:19:51  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, moinmo.in will be offline soon again for hard disk replacement
2008-06-03T15:20:02  <ThomasWaldmann> so if you need something, get it now :)
2008-06-03T15:30:37  * ThomasWaldmann erases a former raid disk while working on the raid device :)
2008-06-03T15:40:38  * ThomasWaldmann likes mdadm and lvm :)
2008-06-03T15:47:20  <xorAxAx> what if your first drive crashes in the meanwhile? :)
2008-06-03T15:49:07  <ThomasWaldmann> then I would need the backup
2008-06-03T15:50:01  <ThomasWaldmann> but throwing away a disk full of data is a bad idea
2008-06-03T15:51:37  <ThomasWaldmann> and as it is a rental root server, I have no control over what happens with the old disk
2008-06-03T15:52:27  <ThomasWaldmann> ddrescue tells me it "rescued" already 72GB of data from /dev/zero :)
2008-06-03T15:56:23  <xorAxAx> hehe
2008-06-03T15:56:40  <xorAxAx> is it the new hetzner server?
2008-06-03T15:57:31  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-06-03T15:58:01  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe only one defective sector, but better replace early
2008-06-03T15:58:55  * ThomasWaldmann would really like disks costing 2x the price and caused only half or less the problems
2008-06-03T16:03:35  <xorAxAx> my hetzner drives have ~ 50° C ...
2008-06-03T16:05:00  <ThomasWaldmann> SMART?
2008-06-03T16:05:22  <ThomasWaldmann> that's a bit high
2008-06-03T16:05:35  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, expect server downtime RSN
2008-06-03T16:05:51  * ThomasWaldmann just waits for them calling back
2008-06-03T16:19:01  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: /dev/sdb: SAMSUNG HD403LJ: 47°C
2008-06-03T16:21:23  <xorAxAx> ST3750640AS - 47°
2008-06-03T16:21:35  <xorAxAx> 2nd ST3750640AS - 45°
2008-06-03T19:18:28  <dreimark> gizmo__: oops that means I copy it to a paste bin
2008-06-03T19:18:51  <gizmo__> ah
2008-06-03T19:18:53  <gizmo__> :)
2008-06-03T19:19:16  <dreimark> gizmo__: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/60899/
2008-06-03T19:19:37  <gizmo__> dreimark: awww :)
2008-06-03T19:20:23  <gizmo__> dreimark: ok we can go on :)
2008-06-03T19:20:52  <dreimark> I would prefer that the user profile knows from which auth it was created and from which auth it was accessed at last time
2008-06-03T19:22:28  <gizmo__> dreimark: probably thats easier than
2008-06-03T19:22:42  <dreimark> opening mm to many auth of the same time gives the (dis)advantage that we can have duplicated usernames on different groups which aren't the same user
2008-06-03T19:23:43  <johill> dreimark: not really, because an auth should reject the username if found & invalid password, so only the first auth can actually use a name that is dupe
2008-06-03T19:24:18  <johill> unless of course you're thinking multi-ldap + ldap groups that are valid only per server or something?
2008-06-03T19:25:05  <dreimark> we have to care for those too. We can have the same group definitions on two ldap servers with differnt users
2008-06-03T19:25:29  <dreimark> and some of this users can have an id
2008-06-03T19:25:37  <johill> yeah true
2008-06-03T19:26:01  <gizmo__> oh great :)
2008-06-03T19:26:03  <johill> and the group on the second server includes user "Foo", but that user is on the first server too and that one isn't meant
2008-06-03T19:26:20  <johill> you should make a diagram ;)
2008-06-03T19:27:26  <dreimark> the main problem is that the ldap groups were not usually defined for the wiki only
2008-06-03T19:28:27  <dreimark> while it is clear if you define on a wiki Group pages for acls you do only enter your valid users
2008-06-03T19:32:53  <dreimark> johill: looks like I can define a macro in arnica and can use wikiutil.invoke_extension_function for all the arguments
2008-06-03T19:35:02  <dreimark> that will be the next big refactoring
2008-06-03T19:35:15  <dreimark> for me
2008-06-03T19:38:19  <dreimark> gizmo__: because I think we won't be able to use page_group_regex for ldap groups I think we should have the possibility to enter a group list
2008-06-03T19:40:07  <dreimark> some of the config vars are related to pages. I am currently not sure if we want other var names for other auths or if we do want a more generic name
2008-06-03T19:46:14  <johill> dreimark: nice
2008-06-03T19:51:11  <gizmo__> dreimark: need to reboot my machine
2008-06-03T19:51:44  <dreimark> ok
2008-06-03T20:06:57  <gizmach> moin
2008-06-03T20:06:59  <gizmach> nack
2008-06-03T20:07:01  <gizmach> back
2008-06-03T20:23:27  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: waldi: PawelPacana: dennda: xorAxAx (tell it moon): please don't forget to do your daily commit and maintain some logbook about what you worked on
2008-06-03T20:23:58  <xorAxAx> my student has such a logbook :)
2008-06-03T20:24:37  <ThomasWaldmann> it would be nice if it was in the repo, so we see at one place whether a student was active or not
2008-06-03T20:27:37  <xorAxAx> i prefer the wiki because its nothing that should be kept with the code or docs ...
2008-06-03T20:28:19  <dennda> i agree with alexander
2008-06-03T20:29:37  <gizmach> ThomasWaldmann:  ok
2008-06-03T20:40:35  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: i pushed some minor cleanups to EmeraldTree
2008-06-03T20:41:45  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: the "docstrings" still talk of tail and I guess the README should also get some new text about what it is
2008-06-03T20:44:30  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: dennda: I am fine with you using the wiki, but then that single place will be the wiki.
2008-06-03T20:44:49  <dennda> suer
2008-06-03T20:44:51  <dennda> sure
2008-06-03T20:44:57  <dennda> I don't want to create any redundancy
2008-06-03T20:44:59  <ThomasWaldmann> So you have to take the last 15 minutes of each workday to make a wiki entry.
2008-06-03T20:45:21  <dennda> summing up what I did?
2008-06-03T20:45:25  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-06-03T20:45:35  <dennda> like "added another method wich prints foo five times"?
2008-06-03T20:45:57  <ThomasWaldmann> could be a bit more high level :)
2008-06-03T20:46:06  <dennda> That's pretty much pointed out by hg diff and my commit messages, isn't it? I felt like having the major conceptual topics on my wiki page
2008-06-03T20:46:47  <ThomasWaldmann> the point is that there should be a place where we can see if you SOC task was your main summer task
2008-06-03T20:47:11  <ThomasWaldmann> without searching irc, wiki, hg, your mind, etc.
2008-06-03T20:48:03  <dennda> So more like this: Tuesday, Third of June, Implemented a pepetuum mobile?
2008-06-03T20:48:47  <dennda> If want to know the technical details you an still hg diff and hg log
2008-06-03T20:48:52  <ThomasWaldmann> yes :) if you do that, you get the rest of the summer free :)
2008-06-03T20:48:59  <dennda> oh
2008-06-03T20:49:00  <dennda> cool
2008-06-03T20:49:16  <dennda> That's not too hard
2008-06-03T20:49:24  <ThomasWaldmann> (if it works, of course :P )
2008-06-03T20:49:52  <dennda> (assuming the pepetuum mobile is implemented in a context where it can run, forgetting about any outer-world problems like power supply)
2008-06-03T20:49:59  <dennda> def foo():
2008-06-03T20:50:02  <dennda>     foo()
2008-06-03T20:50:34  * dennda relaxes and goes on holiday (paid by ThomasWaldmann as reward)
2008-06-03T20:50:43  <ThomasWaldmann> that log book stuff is good for you (tm) btw.
2008-06-03T20:51:03  <dennda> Was that some kind of parental advice? :)
2008-06-03T20:51:42  <ThomasWaldmann> no, that was advice from someone with soc experience :D
2008-06-03T20:51:54  <johill> dennda: what was it you wanted this weekend? did we ever sort that out? I have little memory of that...
2008-06-03T20:52:08  <dennda> johill: heh, I know that feeling
2008-06-03T20:52:34  <ThomasWaldmann> just imagine the case that a students projects gets into trouble somehow and is not finished in time
2008-06-03T20:52:42  <dennda> I cannot recall right now either
2008-06-03T20:53:03  <xorAxAx> dennda: todo lists help :)
2008-06-03T20:53:37  <ThomasWaldmann> then the student's life will be much better if he can show that he tried hard and kept working on the project than if there are long periods of no visible activity
2008-06-03T20:54:50  <ThomasWaldmann> (and if it looks like he worked for 2 days/week rather than 5)
2008-06-03T20:57:52  <ThomasWaldmann> is someone working on the footnote stuff?
2008-06-03T20:58:15  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: johill: ?
2008-06-03T20:58:26  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: Is the server stable again?
2008-06-03T20:58:32  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-06-03T20:58:35  <dennda> ok
2008-06-03T20:59:09  <ThomasWaldmann> it even finished syncing
2008-06-03T20:59:25  <dennda> great
2008-06-03T21:04:28  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: did you find why it sends 2 notifications?
2008-06-03T21:08:50  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: no, didn't have time to look
2008-06-03T21:08:57  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: no, not working on footnote
2008-06-03T21:09:20  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can the footnote backport do it tommorrow
2008-06-03T21:09:34  <dreimark> bbl
2008-06-03T21:09:51  <dreimark> htg
2008-06-03T21:11:44  <ThomasWaldmann> ok cu :)
2008-06-03T21:20:30  <dennda> err, clicked save instead of preview
2008-06-03T21:20:57  <dennda> in order not to pollute everyones inboxes I'll fix that next time I update it
2008-06-03T21:21:02  <dennda> or...
2008-06-03T21:21:08  <dennda> do you receive emails for trivial changes?
2008-06-03T21:21:58  <johill> I do
2008-06-03T21:22:09  <johill> but I also filter mail ;)
2008-06-03T21:22:16  <johill> -> not inbox, no matter
2008-06-03T21:22:46  <dennda> ok I'll improve the looks of it next time then
2008-06-03T21:23:07  <dennda> boy, got some headache
2008-06-03T22:21:11  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: could you please do a setup.py register for moin 1.6.3 (people are getting 1.6.1 with easy_install)
2008-06-03T22:21:26  <ThomasWaldmann> and it doesn't accept my upload
2008-06-03T22:21:27  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: we planned that you should do it
2008-06-03T22:21:38  <xorAxAx> well, i asked you to register so i can give you permissions :)
2008-06-03T22:21:42  <xorAxAx> whats your account name?
2008-06-03T22:21:50  <ThomasWaldmann> <- this
2008-06-03T22:22:37  <xorAxAx> done+
2008-06-03T22:24:36  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, worked
2008-06-03T22:25:00  <ThomasWaldmann> (except that "moin" should be removed and "MoinMoin" should be renamed to "moin"
2008-06-03T22:25:03  <ThomasWaldmann> )
2008-06-03T22:32:39  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, I emailed richar@p.o for help.