MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-05-13

2008-05-13T00:02:49  <ThomasWaldmann> the code has to be changed to search for the correct filename
2008-05-13T00:03:20  <ThomasWaldmann> and when updating, it has to search and delete the old file
2008-05-13T00:04:00  <ThomasWaldmann> also, it is an api change because the timestamp has to be given as parameter
2008-05-13T00:12:14  <dreimark> I'm not sure about the last one. caching.update knows it already so we can use it there for filesys.rename
2008-05-13T00:14:25  <ThomasWaldmann> knows what?
2008-05-13T00:16:48  <dreimark> content
2008-05-13T00:18:24  <ThomasWaldmann> content is arbitrary and not required to contain a timestamp
2008-05-13T00:23:21  <dreimark> if it is a dict it has it
2008-05-13T00:23:50  <dreimark> (/me don't know if we use dicts without)
2008-05-13T00:24:05  <CIA-53> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3595:1dcf6a261c2a 1.7/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: AttachFile: make error msg less confusing when trying to overwrite a file attachment without having acl delete rights
2008-05-13T00:24:07  <CIA-53> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3596:82f0586c3bd0 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/ (42 files): updated i18n
2008-05-13T00:24:08  <CIA-53> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3597:a1f014029215 1.7/MoinMoin/_tests/test_wikidicts.py: merged main
2008-05-13T00:24:24  <ThomasWaldmann> it is arbitrary
2008-05-13T00:24:34  <ThomasWaldmann> not limited to dicts
2008-05-13T00:26:34  <dreimark> ok
2008-05-13T00:28:15  <dreimark> good night
2008-05-13T00:28:45  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2008-05-13T00:43:28  <CIA-53> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3598:b7b205661352 1.7/wiki/underlay.tar: updated underlay
2008-05-13T00:45:36  <dreimark> hmm, just a slightly differnt idea. we can add the filetime linked of the filename so we can use os.readlink to get the time
2008-05-13T00:46:34  <dreimark> (for posix)
2008-05-13T01:30:36  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, but we have to work on win32 also
2008-05-13T01:40:25  <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/files/moin-1.7.0beta2.tar.gz < ready for testing
2008-05-13T01:52:48  <CIA-53> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3599:2b734fe96f57 1.7/ (MoinMoin/version.py docs/CHANGES docs/INSTALL.html moin.spec): 1.7.0beta2 release (updated CHANGES, install-docs, interwiki, bumped version)
2008-05-13T01:52:49  <CIA-53> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3600:a37683c62c52 1.7/.hgtags: tagged release 1.7.0beta2
2008-05-13T02:53:20  * gizmach sleeping
2008-05-13T08:13:49  <gizmach> moin
2008-05-13T08:28:36  <dreimark> moin
2008-05-13T08:50:03  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-05-13T09:57:42  <dreimark> bbl
2008-05-13T14:25:10  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: we need some ldap tests with 1.7 :)
2008-05-13T14:27:08  <ThomasWaldmann> (just testing the current code with ldap_login auth method,
2008-05-13T14:27:29  <ThomasWaldmann> and if that works, testing with 2x ldap_login chained)
2008-05-13T14:28:57  <ThomasWaldmann> the 2x tests should check whether it is usable for 2 ldap servers mirroring each other (thus they have SAME data)
2008-05-13T14:29:28  <ThomasWaldmann> and also for 2 servers that offer different data (e.g. 2 company units using the same wiki)
2008-05-13T14:31:39  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: btw, there is a snippet that shows ldap auth configuration below wiki/config/...
2008-05-13T17:37:50  <zenhase> re
2008-05-13T17:38:02  <zenhase> *phew*
2008-05-13T17:39:03  <zenhase> sorry for being so quite the last few days, i am finishing of my todo list, so that at the end of the month, when coding starts my other obligations/todos are gone
2008-05-13T17:49:21  <ThomasWaldmann> nevertheless, don't forget working on your plan or starting to code might not work :)
2008-05-13T20:04:17  <zenhase> ThomasWaldmann: that is also one of the todos
2008-05-13T20:20:57  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-05-13T21:04:59  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: new idea for fixing small mtime differences
2008-05-13T21:05:02  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/49802/
2008-05-13T21:05:33  <dreimark> gizmach: please read the logs from 14:25 < ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: we need some
2008-05-13T21:05:41  <dreimark> ....
2008-05-13T21:06:09  <gizmach> dreimark: i red it I wrote some test and it passed but I found some things I forgot to include
2008-05-13T21:06:42  <dreimark> ok
2008-05-13T21:06:48  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: tests finished: 1046 passed, 1 failed, 61 skipped in 63.53 seconds
2008-05-13T21:06:52  <dreimark> on my ramdisk
2008-05-13T21:07:46  * dreimark goes home to have some dinner bb afterwards
2008-05-13T21:29:48  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: implementation of the XMPP protocol based on Kamaelia [1]. (This message has been postponed.)
2008-05-13T21:29:52  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: "headstock 0.1.0, a Python (This message has been postponed.)
2008-05-13T21:30:30  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, what what?
2008-05-13T21:30:46  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: you need to read in reverse order
2008-05-13T21:30:59  <grzywacz> ah ;)
2008-05-13T21:31:12  <grzywacz> Let's see...
2008-05-13T21:31:23  <grzywacz> Slow Internet is slow...
2008-05-13T21:32:14  <grzywacz> Just from the announcement, I see that the feature list is not complete enough.
2008-05-13T21:32:19  <grzywacz> But looks good otherwise.
2008-05-13T22:11:53  <dreimark> re
2008-05-13T22:11:59  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/49821/
2008-05-13T22:19:59  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you can optimize this :)
2008-05-13T22:21:12  <dreimark> yeah it can only depend on the diff
2008-05-13T22:21:44  <dreimark> saving the line for the var definition too
2008-05-13T22:23:48  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: is the comment verbose enough ?
2008-05-13T22:26:13  <ThomasWaldmann> s/as/than/
2008-05-13T22:26:54  <ThomasWaldmann> and then please check what your change does (e.g. if it refreshes all the time)
2008-05-13T22:29:05  <ThomasWaldmann> i am not sure if that fix is correct or even at the right place
2008-05-13T22:29:23  <dreimark> ahh yes that may be true reason why that works
2008-05-13T22:29:51  <ThomasWaldmann> so how about first definitely finding the bug before trying to fix stuff?
2008-05-13T22:31:13  <ThomasWaldmann> some logging at the right places would be helpful
2008-05-13T22:31:56  <dreimark> well, sure but finding the right places is not easy too.
2008-05-13T22:33:16  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, but the fixes work better then :D
2008-05-13T22:33:40  * dreimark waits for a TDD comment of xorAxAx 
2008-05-13T22:34:33  <dreimark> in that case I think it is quite difficult to write a test which describes the problem before
2008-05-13T22:45:51  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: my ssh key you have is affected by the debian advisory
2008-05-13T22:51:37  <ThomasWaldmann> send a new one via mail
2008-05-13T22:53:13  <johill> yeah will do. you might want to check the server keys, I've sent notifications out to all affected users on my server
2008-05-13T22:53:23  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: isn't that mtime in memory the EXACT mtime on disk ever (see code)
2008-05-13T22:57:01  <dreimark> johill: is there a test avialable to get on which distro the key were created?
2008-05-13T23:00:19  <johill> dreimark: no, but there's a script to test whether a key is weak if it was created on a LE system
2008-05-13T23:00:29  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: sent
2008-05-13T23:00:44  <johill> I'm treating all my keys as weak now
2008-05-13T23:12:28  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: looks like
2008-05-13T23:12:54  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: did you regen the server key too?
2008-05-13T23:19:39  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, I'll be looking if it develops further
2008-05-13T23:19:46  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: cool
2008-05-13T23:23:02  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: see wiki
2008-05-13T23:24:01  <johill> ah :)
2008-05-13T23:26:33  <johill> hg is the suck. now it just tells me 'no changes' because I cannot log in
2008-05-13T23:26:48  <johill> or it ignored the key mismatch?
2008-05-13T23:26:55  <johill> either way...
2008-05-13T23:34:00  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: new keys from me too
2008-05-13T23:35:44  <dreimark> gn
2008-05-13T23:39:19  <xorAxAx> hi niemeyer
2008-05-13T23:39:23  <xorAxAx> oops, hi ninnnu even :)
2008-05-13T23:39:46  <niemeyer> xorAxAx: Hi ;-)
2008-05-13T23:40:03  <xorAxAx> niemeyer: hi anyways :)
2008-05-13T23:56:41  <gizmach> gn