MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-04-23

2008-04-23T00:17:32  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-04-23T00:45:19  <ThomasWaldmann> gizmach: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1002
2008-04-23T00:48:12  <ThomasWaldmann> you already tried the moin unit tests? ;)
2008-04-23T01:11:25  <mitsuhiko> ThomasWaldmann: there?
2008-04-23T01:14:59  <ThomasWaldmann> mitsuhiko: yes
2008-04-23T01:15:29  <mitsuhiko> ThomasWaldmann: would it be possible to discuss the wsgi/dom thing tomorrow with the mentors and students of those areas?
2008-04-23T01:15:34  <mitsuhiko> there is quite some overlap in that area
2008-04-23T01:17:31  <zenhase> :)
2008-04-23T01:17:41  <ThomasWaldmann> overlap? sure we can discuss.
2008-04-23T01:19:23  <zenhase> ThomasWaldmann: you told me to not touch the request.write calls, so i thought this might be related to the dom task
2008-04-23T01:20:38  <xorAxAx> zenhase: well, i dont why one shouldnt start to peel request.write from the outermost stacks
2008-04-23T01:22:12  <ThomasWaldmann> i said don't touch request.write calls because it is very widespread
2008-04-23T01:22:59  <ThomasWaldmann> if you need change, you can change the request.write method
2008-04-23T01:23:17  <zenhase> yeah
2008-04-23T01:23:38  * mitsuhiko is off for today. very tired
2008-04-23T01:23:39  <zenhase> no problem, i really did not intend to remove it all around the code base :)
2008-04-23T01:23:44  <zenhase> gn8 mitsuhiko
2008-04-23T01:23:49  <zenhase> see you tomorrow
2008-04-23T04:30:20  <fgs> hi
2008-04-23T04:30:38  <fgs> moin too
2008-04-23T04:50:12  <fgs> anyone alive?
2008-04-23T07:44:01  <gizmach> min
2008-04-23T07:44:04  <gizmach> moin
2008-04-23T09:02:57  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-04-23T09:11:05  <johill> moin
2008-04-23T09:11:18  <johill> what's the best way to have a failover wiki?
2008-04-23T09:11:27  <johill> install a second one in read-only mode and rsync?
2008-04-23T09:23:05  <johill> I think we should support a round-robin dns mode where one wiki is the master  that writes go to
2008-04-23T09:24:11  <johill> i.e. have 'mywiki.example.com' and all editing actions, userprefs editing etc. goes to edit.mywiki.example.com
2008-04-23T09:25:01  <TheSheep> shame moin's urls are not restful, but I guess you can still do it pretty easily with rewrite rules
2008-04-23T09:25:27  <johill> I'd rather have moin generate the links like that
2008-04-23T09:25:55  <johill> not easy though given how actions work
2008-04-23T09:26:17  <johill> but I guess it could serve the redirect
2008-04-23T09:43:52  <dreimark> moin
2008-04-23T10:07:56  <zenhase> moin
2008-04-23T12:02:26  <PawelPacana> hello
2008-04-23T12:04:57  <TheSheep> hi PawelPacana
2008-04-23T12:05:15  <TheSheep> PawelPacana: shall we start doing a brain dump?
2008-04-23T12:05:55  <TheSheep> PawelPacana: have looked at the mercurial api already?
2008-04-23T12:11:25  <ThomasWaldmann> fgs: note that comments like you did recently on bug reports are rather useless (when done like you did :)
2008-04-23T12:12:01  <fgs> thomas: which one? :)
2008-04-23T12:12:18  <fgs> the can't reproduce or the other bug that i decided to delete after all?
2008-04-23T12:12:38  <ThomasWaldmann> fgs: you have to use <<Date(2008-04-23T22:15:01Z)>> to get a fixed timestamp, or even better -- 127.0.0.1 <<DateTime(2008-04-23T22:15:01Z)>>
2008-04-23T12:12:54  <fgs> doh
2008-04-23T12:13:06  * fgs is fixing it
2008-04-23T12:13:35  <ThomasWaldmann> and if you refer to tip, also tell which repo. or even better tell a changeset hash or moin version number
2008-04-23T12:14:45  <fgs> ok, i will
2008-04-23T12:16:11  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks for testing :)
2008-04-23T12:17:01  <ThomasWaldmann> can someone please try to reproduce this:
2008-04-23T12:17:16  <ThomasWaldmann> go to http://moinmo.in/RecentChanges
2008-04-23T12:17:58  <ThomasWaldmann> click on "2" to get changes for last 2 days
2008-04-23T12:18:11  <ThomasWaldmann> set a bookmark to 1 day before
2008-04-23T12:18:34  <ThomasWaldmann> click on the "updated" icon for the WikiSandBox change
2008-04-23T12:18:48  <ThomasWaldmann> does your browser crash when loading the wikisandbox diff page?
2008-04-23T12:19:22  <PawelPacana> TheSheep: i have looked but need some more time to play with it
2008-04-23T12:22:00  <TheSheep> PawelPacana: one potential problem is that mercurial cannot really work without a working directory
2008-04-23T12:22:20  <TheSheep> PawelPacana: btw, joining mercurial might be a good idea too :)
2008-04-23T12:22:28  <TheSheep> #mercurial I mean
2008-04-23T12:22:48  <PawelPacana> sounds reasonable ;)
2008-04-23T12:24:18  <PawelPacana> TheSheep: about brainstorming
2008-04-23T12:24:35  <PawelPacana> let me get to the weekend
2008-04-23T12:25:03  <PawelPacana> i`ll post my ideas and visions on wiki
2008-04-23T12:25:21  <PawelPacana> and we shall start discussing on that
2008-04-23T12:29:06  <fgs> argh, how i do revert a commit so it does not appear in export anymore?
2008-04-23T12:29:19  <fgs> sorry if it's a bit OT, but it's driving me insane
2008-04-23T12:33:27  <TheSheep> fgs: I think you can only add to the history
2008-04-23T12:33:45  <fgs> so if i dio a commit
2008-04-23T12:33:49  <fgs> do sorry
2008-04-23T12:33:51  <ThomasWaldmann> hg rollback (first read the docs!)
2008-04-23T12:34:08  <fgs> ok
2008-04-23T12:38:24  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can't reproduce the crash
2008-04-23T12:42:52  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i guess it is related to latest firefox in ubuntu. which firefox/dist do you use?
2008-04-23T12:51:20  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: does the flash stuff at the bottom show for you?
2008-04-23T13:09:46  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, strange. i reinstalled the flash plugin and now it doesn't crash.
2008-04-23T13:18:57  * ThomasWaldmann deleted the flash file (and I will check it with a virus scanner later)
2008-04-23T13:20:35  <johill> mail it to me, if you get it back it has a virus ;)
2008-04-23T13:21:07  <johill> not sure if clamav checks flash viruses though, is that even feasible?
2008-04-23T13:22:55  <ThomasWaldmann> no idea. but if it makes a browser crash, it is either defect or someone has manipulated it.
2008-04-23T13:23:04  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: suse and it's ff 2.0.0.13
2008-04-23T13:23:15  <ThomasWaldmann> .14 here
2008-04-23T13:23:40  <ThomasWaldmann> but i guess it was rather my flash plugin
2008-04-23T13:25:04  <dreimark> unfortunately I was not looking on the complete page, don't know it was there
2008-04-23T13:26:28  <dreimark> oops
2008-04-23T13:26:31  <dreimark> browser crash
2008-04-23T13:27:31  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: did only click on the browser again
2008-04-23T13:28:36  <dreimark> hmm I guess that crahs was more java related
2008-04-23T13:29:01  <dreimark> my browser misses the java_vm files
2008-04-23T13:32:47  <fgs> later
2008-04-23T16:05:56  <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: current brain dump is located at http://moinmo.in/BastianBlank/TreeOutputFormatter
2008-04-23T16:06:33  <ThomasWaldmann> seen it, will look at it later. we can talk at lug meeting. :)
2008-04-23T16:21:42  <gizmach> moin
2008-04-23T16:25:19  <dreimark> hi gizmach
2008-04-23T16:26:41  <dreimark> someone is doing jokes with me "Which tip, which changeset, which release ?"
2008-04-23T16:26:56  <dreimark> is answered with
2008-04-23T16:26:57  <dreimark> moin 1.7 as today.
2008-04-23T16:35:53  <gizmach> dreimark: ? what
2008-04-23T16:59:01  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: lol :)
2008-04-23T17:01:13  <johill> dreimark: clearly, you need a .killfile
2008-04-23T17:01:24  <johill> :)
2008-04-23T17:37:49  <dreimark> bbl
2008-04-23T18:27:25  <gizmach> moin
2008-04-23T18:28:34  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: as he signs now correctly "today" is ok
2008-04-23T20:43:03  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it is not the same as writing the cs
2008-04-23T20:43:35  <dreimark> the next one writes then on friday or yesterday
2008-04-23T20:44:04  <dreimark> I hope he learns that
2008-04-23T20:55:11  * dreimark seems to be a human unittest
2008-04-23T20:56:43  <dreimark> what does happen to the recoverpass action. Does one tried to use the name instead of the email adress?
2008-04-23T21:20:45  <dreimark> johill: show_login = False  does not  remove login/logout
2008-04-23T21:21:12  <dreimark> I have no idea yet if that username mail me my account data has worked before
2008-04-23T21:35:57  <zenhase> damnit, screenworking is almost impossible today :/
2008-04-23T21:36:31  <zenhase> my back pain is killing me, i can only choose between lying motionless or standing
2008-04-23T21:37:47  <xorAxAx> zenhase: what did ya do?
2008-04-23T21:38:02  * xorAxAx is also full of pain - wisdom tooth removal :)
2008-04-23T21:38:13  <xorAxAx> german people generall like pain: http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/27/27786/1.html
2008-04-23T21:38:16  <xorAxAx> +y
2008-04-23T21:38:27  <gizmach> zenhase: try to use pilates ball or smtn it helps
2008-04-23T21:40:05  <zenhase> xorAxAx: i don't know
2008-04-23T21:40:20  <zenhase> xorAxAx: it started very light yesterday afternoon
2008-04-23T21:40:32  <xorAxAx> stress probably?
2008-04-23T21:40:35  <gizmach> xorAxAx: and no help for you except try to wash it with sage tee
2008-04-23T21:40:38  <zenhase> xorAxAx: when i woke up this morning it was already a problem putting on socks
2008-04-23T21:40:59  <zenhase> xorAxAx: i guess it's more like a twitched nerve
2008-04-23T21:41:00  <xorAxAx> gizmach: i may not drink tea :)
2008-04-23T21:41:13  <xorAxAx> zenhase: ah, then a doctor might fix it
2008-04-23T21:41:19  <gizmach> not to drink it
2008-04-23T21:41:24  <zenhase> xorAxAx: no they don't
2008-04-23T21:41:25  <gizmach> just wash your mouth
2008-04-23T21:42:02  <gizmach> zenhase: probably some good looking girl with great hands could do it better :))
2008-04-23T21:42:10  <zenhase> gizmach: yeah
2008-04-23T21:42:12  <xorAxAx> gizmach: hehe, i have some non-organic mouth rinse which works fine
2008-04-23T21:42:16  <zenhase> gizmach: does not have to be great looking
2008-04-23T21:42:20  <xorAxAx> doesnt taste as good as sage, though
2008-04-23T21:42:30  <zenhase> gizmach: i wouldn't mind an old experienced thai lady either
2008-04-23T21:42:49  <xorAxAx> yeah, if zenhase is lying on his belly, he wont see her anyway
2008-04-23T21:43:00  <zenhase> the doctor i went to see for the same reason some years ago just injected me with a pain killer
2008-04-23T21:43:22  <xorAxAx> zenhase: i recommend autogenic training :)
2008-04-23T21:43:27  <gizmach> heheheh
2008-04-23T21:44:10  <zenhase> xorAxAx: never quite got around learning how to do this
2008-04-23T21:44:23  <zenhase> but it's a skill that is on my 'TO LEARN' list
2008-04-23T21:44:29  <xorAxAx> zenhase: i am doing an uni sport course
2008-04-23T21:45:02  <dennda> oh boy
2008-04-23T21:45:13  <dennda> need to do payment tax things for google now
2008-04-23T21:45:19  <xorAxAx> dennda: ?
2008-04-23T21:45:21  * dennda hates buerokram
2008-04-23T21:45:27  <xorAxAx> filling out the form?
2008-04-23T21:45:35  <dennda> yes ;)
2008-04-23T21:45:42  <xorAxAx> well, its not an irs form, so be happy :)
2008-04-23T21:45:46  <zenhase> dennda: bueauro-crazy ;)
2008-04-23T21:45:49  <dennda> hehe
2008-04-23T21:46:32  <zenhase> i think i will go on a walk
2008-04-23T21:46:38  <zenhase> the weather is awesome
2008-04-23T21:46:54  <zenhase> and perhaps this will help my muscles to relax a little
2008-04-23T21:47:51  <zenhase> and a friend of mine suggested he would meet me at entropia and bring me some cool rubberband for back training
2008-04-23T21:48:02  <zenhase> like this http://www.training-zollikofen.ch/images/Theraband_Ganzkoerper_01.jpg
2008-04-23T22:05:01  <dreimark> xorAxAx: if you have some cloves chewing some helps
2008-04-23T22:05:30  <xorAxAx> interesting hint
2008-04-23T22:07:24  <dreimark> weshalb das Kauen von Gewürznelken als Hausmittel gegen Zahnschmerzen bekannt ist.
2008-04-23T22:07:47  <xorAxAx> no, its not that bad :)
2008-04-23T22:11:34  <dreimark> zenhase: I found today choclait chips in a plus shop here
2008-04-23T22:24:19  <dreimark> johill: Create Profile + email in the newaccount form can't be used to recover the password by name
2008-04-23T22:25:54  <dreimark> and I think the meaning is now different as in 1.6
2008-04-23T22:27:02  <dreimark> it makes sense that it is only for user creation
2008-04-23T22:29:36  <dreimark> good night