2008-03-30T00:04:00 <dreimark> gn
2008-03-30T00:05:18 <kikka> gn dreimark
2008-03-30T00:13:54 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3434:d82ad8caaf1f 1.7/setup.py: setup.py: use own server for download, remove unused settings
2008-03-30T00:13:54 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3435:1a95fc180bdd 1.7/MoinMoin/xmlrpc/__init__.py: xmlrpc applyAuthToken: give good error msg for empty token, avoid CachingError 'is a directory' (port from 1.6)
2008-03-30T00:26:14 * ThomasWaldmann updates 1.7 i18n
2008-03-30T00:49:33 <ThomasWaldmann> msgid "Low-level communication error: $s"
2008-03-30T00:49:39 <ThomasWaldmann> msgid "Low-level communication error: %s"
2008-03-30T00:49:43 <ThomasWaldmann> wtf?
2008-03-30T01:13:08 <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: I want to write another application for the doodle-task. Do I need to copy the fields that don't change in my application (like "What's your current occupation") or can I leave them out, pointing to the other application?
2008-03-30T01:18:11 <zenhase> hmm
2008-03-30T01:18:43 <zenhase> i didn't write much about myself into the application but put it on the wikipage
2008-03-30T01:19:00 <dennda> didn't you use the template?
2008-03-30T01:19:25 <zenhase> i used the developer-template for my personal resume, yes
2008-03-30T01:19:28 <zenhase> on the wiki
2008-03-30T01:19:41 <zenhase> and my application was only about the task
2008-03-30T01:20:51 <zenhase> dunno if this is any problem, but it seemed the easiest way to me (also since i already had this page from last year)
2008-03-30T01:21:12 <dennda> what's your name?
2008-03-30T01:21:30 <dennda> florian krupicka?
2008-03-30T01:22:59 <zenhase> yes
2008-03-30T01:27:56 <zenhase> funny, there is another karlsruhian on the wiki who seems to apply for the webbased install o_O
2008-03-30T01:32:05 <zenhase> and i see i missed some stuff from the developer-application-template
2008-03-30T01:32:09 <zenhase> *cough*
2008-03-30T01:34:12 <zenhase> and i almost forgot my muffins in the oven :o
2008-03-30T01:34:39 <zenhase> dennda: what is this doodle task?
2008-03-30T01:35:02 <dennda> in a nutshell: schedule an event on the wiki with other people
2008-03-30T01:39:22 <kikka> good night.
2008-03-30T01:40:06 <zenhase> sounds cool
2008-03-30T01:40:17 <zenhase> kikka: gn8 lil fella
2008-03-30T01:41:03 <dennda> gn8
2008-03-30T01:44:33 <zenhase> gn8 dennda
2008-03-30T01:59:00 <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: copy&paste
2008-03-30T03:28:31 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3436:7b96b91b9206 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/tools/po2wiki.py: i18n tools: use multicall and getAuthToken instead of http basic auth transport
2008-03-30T03:28:33 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3437:30a254da9eba 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/tools/ (po2wiki.py wiki2po.py): i18n update scripts: use master17.moinmo.in
2008-03-30T03:28:34 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3438:ed3c9a77bee2 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/ (37 files in 2 dirs): updated i18n
2008-03-30T04:16:51 <zenhase> omg :o
2008-03-30T04:16:57 <zenhase> it's 4 already
2008-03-30T04:17:33 <zenhase> well, i finish the WSGI application tomorrow, submitted only an abstract right now, no details
2008-03-30T04:17:40 <zenhase> gn8 everyone
2008-03-30T04:26:41 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3439:b9879146620d 1.7/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fix some usages of underlay.tar.bz2 to use underlay.tar, use 'moin' for setup.py
2008-03-30T04:26:42 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3440:41ad5058952b 1.7/MoinMoin/ (config/multiconfig.py search/queryparser.py): disabled xapian_stemming by default, added some comments to problematic code enabled by it
2008-03-30T04:26:43 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3441:8230be5f24d7 1.7/MoinMoin/parser/text_moin_wiki.py: wiki parser: removed protocol check for (image) transclusion
2008-03-30T04:26:44 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3442:fe130d233204 1.7/MoinMoin/ (search/builtin.py support/xapwrap/index.py): Allow Xapian to run under Windows (thanks to Don Reid)
2008-03-30T04:26:47 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3443:4ee64d58e801 1.7/MoinMoin/ (search/builtin.py util/filesys.py): move platform dependent filesystem routines to util.filesys
2008-03-30T04:31:34 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3444:4d7e493a6e71 1.7/ (MoinMoin/__init__.py MoinMoin/version.py README): updating some (c) lines and docs/CHANGES
2008-03-30T08:20:15 <dreimark> moin
2008-03-30T10:00:29 <gizmo> hi I wonder does in project: Extending moin's groups to LDAP and other external sources, external sources is related do database, txt file, some config groups
2008-03-30T10:29:08 <dreimark> gizmo: currently we do grouping only by wiki pages we do use a page_group_regex
2008-03-30T10:29:33 <dreimark> auth ldap is implemented but ldap groups is missing
2008-03-30T10:30:17 <dreimark> other external sources can be databases or other group serving devices
2008-03-30T10:32:44 <gizmo> dreimark: I was thinking of implementing ldap groups,
2008-03-30T10:32:56 <gizmo> LDAP/AD
2008-03-30T10:33:22 <gizmo> and to add some features for easier working with ldap - reading ldap setting ,
2008-03-30T10:33:49 <gizmo> also do u know is there support for moin to work with more then one ldap server
2008-03-30T10:33:52 <gizmo> at time
2008-03-30T10:34:04 <gizmo> I saw that on request list
2008-03-30T10:44:20 <dreimark> gizmo: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.7.0
2008-03-30T10:44:34 <dreimark> and http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/LdapMultipleAuth
2008-03-30T10:44:55 <dreimark> we can't test it ourselfs because noone of us has this setup
2008-03-30T10:45:29 <dreimark> so ThomasWaldmann: "I can't test it, if noone else tests it before 1.7.0, it will go in untested"
2008-03-30T10:49:31 <gizmo> dreimark: oh I see, then the only thing I can implement is support for LDAP groups and probbably to some database
2008-03-30T10:50:03 <gizmo> pardon I wasn't reading all
2008-03-30T10:53:08 <dreimark> gizmo: no problem, it is much to read at all
2008-03-30T10:54:44 <gizmo> dreimark: It's still morning :)
2008-03-30T10:54:58 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3445:1d31ce271b94 1.7/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_StatsChart.py: macro._tests.test_StatsChart: tests StatsChart macro with clean page scope cache entries
2008-03-30T10:55:00 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3446:2ed53a3185de 1.7/MoinMoin/widget/browser.py: widget.browser: fixed wrong called page object
2008-03-30T10:55:01 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3447:e5543417b366 1.7/MoinMoin/parser/_tests/test_text_csv.py: parser._tests.test_text_csv: added tests for Sniffer
2008-03-30T10:55:02 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3448:f26af7360865 1.7/MoinMoin/parser/text_csv.py: parser.text_csv: fixed bug sniffing empty line
2008-03-30T11:17:32 <dreimark> :) some more apps
2008-03-30T11:19:29 <gizmo> dreimark: If I post an application for two moin project can I just add on the same wiki page both projects?
2008-03-30T11:22:52 <dreimark> gizmo: sure, the title is in optional plural "Project(s)"
2008-03-30T11:23:05 <gizmo> I saw that but I wasn't sure
2008-03-30T11:23:06 <gizmo> :)
2008-03-30T11:29:00 <xorAxAx> 11 applications currently :-)
2008-03-30T11:29:54 <gizmo> xorAxAx: morning :)
2008-03-30T11:30:11 * dreimark comments currently
2008-03-30T11:30:12 <gizmo> +1 in a few hours :)
2008-03-30T11:30:34 <xorAxAx> good morning gizmo
2008-03-30T11:30:43 <dreimark> good morning xorAxAx
2008-03-30T11:31:03 <xorAxAx> moin reimar
2008-03-30T11:34:07 <kikka> morning!
2008-03-30T11:34:46 <dreimark> alexander this application list view is grrrrr. why didn't they use threads
2008-03-30T11:35:11 <xorAxAx> because the intern didnt know how to implement them :)
2008-03-30T11:41:45 <dreimark> xorAxAx: how much mentors do we have?
2008-03-30T11:42:16 <xorAxAx> 6
2008-03-30T11:42:23 <xorAxAx> but mentors can do multiple students as well
2008-03-30T11:42:34 <xorAxAx> in the last years, we always had more mentors than slots
2008-03-30T11:43:07 <dreimark> hmm I thought only one mentor per students I guess you are sure about that
2008-03-30T11:43:23 <xorAxAx> yes, i know mentors with 7 students
2008-03-30T11:43:30 <xorAxAx> 2 students seems to happen quite often
2008-03-30T11:43:42 <dreimark> that can become fun
2008-03-30T12:10:15 <dennda> Um, shall I copy over some things from my application to the wiki like zenhase did?
2008-03-30T12:10:22 <dennda> good morning everyone :)
2008-03-30T12:15:29 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-03-30T12:43:17 <dennda> moin ThomasWaldmann
2008-03-30T12:45:14 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3449:933bb04c0935 1.7/MoinMoin/script/ (__init__.py maint/makecache.py): script.maint.makecache: introduced makecache maint module
2008-03-30T13:00:46 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2614:e141fe0c45d4 1.6/MoinMoin/widget/browser.py: widget.browser: fixed wrong called page object (backport from 1.7)
2008-03-30T13:00:47 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2615:3b34c00ca101 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_StatsChart.py: macro._tests.test_StatsChart: tests StatsChart macro with clean page scope cache entries (backport from 1.7)
2008-03-30T13:19:02 <zenhase> re
2008-03-30T13:19:09 <zenhase> or moin :)
2008-03-30T13:19:57 <zenhase> dennda: actually i didn't copy anything over yet ;)
2008-03-30T13:22:06 <zenhase> wow, 11 applications and still some coming in
2008-03-30T13:22:11 <zenhase> nice :)
2008-03-30T13:40:18 * gizmo deletted her almostly finished application and has to do it all over again
2008-03-30T13:43:37 <dreimark> gizmo: do you have done a preview?
2008-03-30T13:44:09 <zenhase> :/
2008-03-30T13:46:55 <dennda> did you delete it on purpose?
2008-03-30T13:54:32 <TheSheep> gizmo: check YourName/EditorBackup
2008-03-30T13:55:53 <dreimark> TheSheep: in 1.6 this is replaced by draft
2008-03-30T13:56:26 <TheSheep> ah
2008-03-30T13:57:01 <dreimark> gizmo: you should log in anonymous user don't have backups
2008-03-30T14:05:22 <gizmo> TheSheep: thx
2008-03-30T14:06:01 <gizmo> dennda: it was accidently
2008-03-30T14:09:53 <gizmo> TheSheep: TheSheep I think i need to do it all over again,.. well et least I know what to write
2008-03-30T14:10:28 <TheSheep> gizmo: yeah, it tends to be better at the second attempt too
2008-03-30T14:10:49 <gizmo> TheSheep: I hope so :)
2008-03-30T14:20:04 <dreimark> any idea why I can't copy http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/HelloWorld-1.6 ?
2008-03-30T14:20:50 <dennda> gizmo: you should put your important files under version control
2008-03-30T14:20:53 <dennda> that's how I do it
2008-03-30T14:21:22 <dreimark> CopyPage action looks broken on MM
2008-03-30T14:22:34 <dreimark> TheSheep:
2008-03-30T14:22:36 <dreimark> sorry
2008-03-30T14:22:38 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:
2008-03-30T14:23:12 <dreimark> bbl
2008-03-30T14:26:56 <zenhase> dennda: i tried VCSing my home-directory once ... didn't quite work out, especially performance-wise
2008-03-30T14:27:14 <zenhase> well, i used darcs back then, could've been one of the problems
2008-03-30T14:27:59 <zenhase> dunno how darcs copes with binaries and such
2008-03-30T14:28:06 <dennda> zenhase: that doesn't make sense
2008-03-30T14:28:14 <zenhase> dennda: hmm?
2008-03-30T14:28:27 <dennda> zenhase: would be better to have an external backup of files that don't change, like music or videos
2008-03-30T14:28:43 <dennda> but I prefer having my important textfiles and such under version control
2008-03-30T14:28:46 <dennda> has many benefits
2008-03-30T14:29:14 <zenhase> dennda: i didn't version my vids and mp3s ;)
2008-03-30T14:29:27 <dennda> ah ok
2008-03-30T14:29:39 <xorAxAx> yes, darcs is slow, esp. when it comes to merges :)
2008-03-30T14:29:40 <dennda> thought so because you said you took the whole home directory
2008-03-30T14:29:44 <zenhase> it was actually only about 2megs of configs and perhaps an sqlite db or so
2008-03-30T14:30:06 <gizmo> dennda: Well now it's too late
2008-03-30T14:30:54 <zenhase> hmpf, weather outside is super nice since weeks and i am getting writers blockade on my 2nd application :)
2008-03-30T14:30:55 <dennda> gizmo: don't blame me if it happens again :)
2008-03-30T14:31:28 <zenhase> *inhale .... exhale* now, let's finish this, so i can enjoy the rest of the afternoon
2008-03-30T14:31:30 <gizmo> dennda: you sound like my teacher from database course
2008-03-30T14:31:42 <dennda> I take that as a compliment
2008-03-30T14:31:56 <gizmo> dennda: you should
2008-03-30T14:31:57 <gizmo> :)
2008-03-30T14:37:00 <grzywacz> moin
2008-03-30T14:37:47 <zenhase> moin karol
2008-03-30T14:38:02 <grzywacz> hey zenhase
2008-03-30T14:45:21 <gizmo> does currently exist ACL set ?
2008-03-30T15:16:09 <dreimark> gizmo: ?
2008-03-30T15:16:28 <dreimark> hi karol
2008-03-30T15:35:49 <xqj37> hi
2008-03-30T15:35:58 <xqj37> i'm one of the google summer of code applicants
2008-03-30T15:37:49 <xqj37> ThomasWaldmann: you there?
2008-03-30T15:39:14 <xqj37> ok i'll come here again later around 7pm or so
2008-03-30T15:39:39 <dennda> xqj37: just ask, maybe we know the answer as well :)
2008-03-30T15:39:53 <xorAxAx> xqj37: just ask
2008-03-30T15:40:33 <xqj37> well I applied for the google SOC and my mentors wanted to know precisely what project I want to do
2008-03-30T15:41:00 <xorAxAx> whats your realname?
2008-03-30T15:41:06 <xorAxAx> otto?
2008-03-30T15:41:06 <xqj37> Otto Allmendinger
2008-03-30T15:41:08 <xqj37> yes
2008-03-30T15:41:09 <xorAxAx> ok
2008-03-30T15:41:36 <xqj37> you are?
2008-03-30T15:41:37 <xorAxAx> yes, your application is pretty short and doesnt talk at all about any deliverables
2008-03-30T15:41:54 <xqj37> yeah I know
2008-03-30T15:42:10 <dennda> xqj37: I havn't read your application, but you may want to take a look at the application template on the wiki
2008-03-30T15:42:24 <xqj37> I have used the template
2008-03-30T15:42:30 <dennda> ah ok
2008-03-30T15:42:55 <xorAxAx> no, you didnt
2008-03-30T15:43:27 <xorAxAx> esp. you didnt provide any useful info for the "Project(s) I apply for and my ideas for them" section
2008-03-30T15:43:40 <xorAxAx> you must make up your mind before applying, not afterwards
2008-03-30T15:44:03 <xqj37> okay
2008-03-30T15:44:21 <xorAxAx> also you should copy the relevant text into the google webapp
2008-03-30T15:44:41 <xorAxAx> linking personal information on the wiki is fine, but project related stuff should appear in the google webapp for legal reasons
2008-03-30T15:45:06 <xqj37> alright I will look into it
2008-03-30T15:45:35 <xorAxAx> also note that there is already one application for the easy webbased installer by another student (which doesnt mean that he would be prioritised in any way)
2008-03-30T15:45:36 <xqj37> so you need some precise description of what I want to do?
2008-03-30T15:45:40 <xorAxAx> yes
2008-03-30T15:46:06 <xqj37> well you have various interesting ideas
2008-03-30T15:46:26 <xqj37> okay i'll look into it
2008-03-30T15:46:32 <xorAxAx> if you want to apply for multiple things, you can write multiple applications
2008-03-30T15:46:48 <xorAxAx> but because i am not supposed to paraphrase the faq, i will do something else now ;-)
2008-03-30T15:47:17 <xqj37> yeah I hope I can produce something by the end of the day
2008-03-30T15:47:30 <xqj37> but I need some sleep now ;)
2008-03-30T15:48:47 <xqj37> Its difficult to pick a project because I cannot estimate the difficulty
2008-03-30T15:51:06 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3450:69374fa17c73 1.7/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: wikiutil.renderText: removed unused param
2008-03-30T15:54:35 * gizmo is readdy to post her seccond application
2008-03-30T15:54:59 <dreimark> :)
2008-03-30T15:55:16 <dreimark> xqj37: of course you can ask
2008-03-30T15:55:50 <zenhase> *phew*
2008-03-30T15:55:53 <zenhase> i need a break
2008-03-30T15:56:16 <gizmo> zenhase: you'll later take a break
2008-03-30T15:56:43 <xqj37> dreimark: but this is irc and people are grumpy all the time ;)
2008-03-30T15:57:11 <dennda> hu
2008-03-30T15:57:17 <dreimark> hu
2008-03-30T15:57:26 <dennda> Are we grumpy? :)
2008-03-30T15:57:33 <dreimark> xqj37: who, when and where ?
2008-03-30T15:57:36 <dennda> I try not to be ;)
2008-03-30T15:57:47 <zenhase> gizmo: i do now, i just finished the 2nd application
2008-03-30T15:58:00 <dreimark> dennda: I think that was more in general case
2008-03-30T15:58:06 <xqj37> yes
2008-03-30T15:58:16 <zenhase> well, not finished, since i ask the mentors now, to comment on my applications if they want some things clarified
2008-03-30T15:58:26 <dennda> dreimark: yeah, that's why I dropped some smileys
2008-03-30T15:58:30 <xqj37> just a stereotype
2008-03-30T15:58:36 <zenhase> but i will take the break for this afternoon and be back in the evening
2008-03-30T15:58:37 <zenhase> :)
2008-03-30T15:58:46 <dennda> climbing?
2008-03-30T15:59:07 <dreimark> xqj37: you can read our previous talks on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev
2008-03-30T15:59:23 <zenhase> dennda: not exactly
2008-03-30T15:59:29 <xqj37> no I'll take your word
2008-03-30T15:59:30 <zenhase> dennda: slacklining and some bouldering
2008-03-30T15:59:38 <xqj37> this is a nice chan
2008-03-30T15:59:51 <xqj37> and people can ask questions
2008-03-30T16:00:10 * zenhase starts getting all grumpy on xqj37 ;)
2008-03-30T16:00:53 <xqj37> first question: do I have to hurry?
2008-03-30T16:01:00 <zenhase> well, cu l8a dudes
2008-03-30T16:01:07 <zenhase> (and duderettes)
2008-03-30T16:01:13 <dreimark> zenhase: hehe
2008-03-30T16:01:16 <xqj37> I'm just really tired and kinda hungover
2008-03-30T16:01:42 <dreimark> xqj37: the deadline may be but extended on monday but we don't know yet
2008-03-30T16:01:50 <gizmo> zenhase: I'm going to submin my seccond now and then start writing my laboratorys (some stupid formal verification for tomoorw)
2008-03-30T16:02:06 <xqj37> ok
2008-03-30T16:03:02 <dennda> xqj37: application deadline *for now* is April 1st, 00:00 UTC :)
2008-03-30T16:04:02 <xqj37> I sometimes suspect that I can't work without pressure
2008-03-30T16:04:22 <dennda> That's the case with most people
2008-03-30T16:05:16 <gizmo> xqj37: join the club :D
2008-03-30T16:05:19 <xqj37> ok thats a good deadline
2008-03-30T16:05:31 <xqj37> i'll set countdown timer
2008-03-30T16:05:38 <xqj37> ;)
2008-03-30T16:06:14 <xqj37> ok thanks guys see you later..
2008-03-30T16:06:34 <dreimark> gizmo: it's a good idea to create an acount on MM and to change text logged in ;)
2008-03-30T16:07:17 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/MacroMarket/HelloWorld-1.7?action=info
2008-03-30T16:08:16 <dreimark> thanks for fixing that line but it seems my last patch
2008-03-30T16:08:22 <gizmo> dreimark: ;)
2008-03-30T16:08:27 <dennda> Is there anything related to the doodle decision making task yet? I assume that code must be built from scratch, is that correct?
2008-03-30T16:08:33 <gizmo> dreimark: blond moments :D
2008-03-30T16:09:06 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: breaks that
2008-03-30T16:09:18 <gizmo> dreimark: do I need to write something in gsoc application form at google page or just leave it on MM
2008-03-30T16:09:40 <dreimark> gizmo: please write all application related stuff into the google tracker
2008-03-30T16:09:50 <dreimark> it's for legal purposes
2008-03-30T16:10:26 <gizmo> dreimark: well, ok then
2008-03-30T16:10:26 <dreimark> dennda: no only the idea
2008-03-30T16:10:46 <dreimark> xqj37: cu
2008-03-30T16:11:18 <dennda> ok, thanks
2008-03-30T16:15:09 * gizmo thinks that she's done for now with applications :) two of them submited
2008-03-30T16:19:09 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i suggest you don't "fix" stuff that works
2008-03-30T16:24:01 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: there was no test indicating that I did break something
2008-03-30T16:25:30 <ThomasWaldmann> and what did not work to require that "fix"?
2008-03-30T16:26:41 * ThomasWaldmann has a slight deja vue about this problem
2008-03-30T16:27:00 <dreimark> creating cache files
2008-03-30T16:27:53 <ThomasWaldmann> how's that related?
2008-03-30T16:28:25 <dreimark> I wanted to add script.maint.makecache
2008-03-30T16:28:32 <dreimark> doing that I found two bugs
2008-03-30T16:28:39 <dreimark> one in the csv parser
2008-03-30T16:29:08 <dreimark> and one for StatsChart
2008-03-30T16:29:20 <dreimark> if we don't have cache files
2008-03-30T16:29:26 <dreimark> StatsChart was broken
2008-03-30T16:30:53 * dreimark remebers that we have seen this with xapian index build too
2008-03-30T16:31:12 <dreimark> two different results with cache ok and maint cleancache wrong
2008-03-30T16:35:09 <dennda> Does moin support arbitrary groups? E.g. can I, as the admin, create a group called "non-smokers" and add people to it, or is it somehow limited, allowing only "admin", "moderator", "user"?
2008-03-30T16:35:58 <dreimark> dennda: it has to end with Group
2008-03-30T16:36:17 <dennda> So "NonSmokerGroup" would be ok?
2008-03-30T16:36:24 <dreimark> yes, because of the group_regex
2008-03-30T16:36:33 <dennda> great
2008-03-30T16:36:42 <dreimark> every user can create Group pages
2008-03-30T16:37:12 <dreimark> a user with admin rights can use them for acls too
2008-03-30T16:37:17 <dennda> Can users add themselves to groups or can that be configured as the group owner (if such a thing exists) wishes?
2008-03-30T16:38:28 <dreimark> see http://moinmo.in/ReimarBauer/UnderConstruction#head-4bd6b15ddb267869a02967597c64ff26e1f8ebb0
2008-03-30T16:38:38 <dreimark> they can
2008-03-30T16:39:04 <dreimark> and it can be configured using acls who is allowed to do it
2008-03-30T16:39:10 * gizmo gone
2008-03-30T16:39:13 <dennda> great
2008-03-30T16:39:20 <dennda> Actually I read that entire page
2008-03-30T16:39:37 * dennda has a sieve-like brain
2008-03-30T16:47:55 * dreimark takes a break (a bit walking into town)
2008-03-30T17:29:43 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2616:60d06955695d 1.6/MoinMoin/widget/browser.py: revert e141fe0c45d4 because it breaks info action
2008-03-30T18:16:23 <dreimark> bb
2008-03-30T18:18:00 <dennda> sheesh
2008-03-30T18:18:05 <dennda> submitted the second application
2008-03-30T18:18:11 <dennda> I had to snip some pieces
2008-03-30T18:18:12 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: seems I am stumled in an ant-hill
2008-03-30T18:18:17 <dennda> 7499 characters
2008-03-30T18:18:21 <dennda> the limit is quite annoying
2008-03-30T18:18:36 <dreimark> s/stumled/stumbled/
2008-03-30T18:19:26 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the revert doesn't fix it
2008-03-30T18:22:30 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: doesn't fix what?
2008-03-30T18:23:07 <kikka> re
2008-03-30T18:23:42 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/MacroMarket/HelloWorld-1.7?action=info
2008-03-30T18:24:15 <dreimark> I do have the same traceback only the line is changed
2008-03-30T18:26:12 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: try now, i restarted apache
2008-03-30T18:26:30 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ok
2008-03-30T18:27:44 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2617:4836b0259b62 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_StatsChart.py: tests: fix new StatsChart test (create correct request environment including request.page)
2008-03-30T18:28:54 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: please fix that in 1.7 after having a look at it
2008-03-30T18:29:05 <intinno> Hi, I am interested in working on email enhancements for moinmoinwiki for gsoc 2008 . I wrote a proposal for the same.
2008-03-30T18:30:00 <ThomasWaldmann> hi intinno
2008-03-30T18:30:04 <intinno> I am not sure about the jabber integration with moinmoin
2008-03-30T18:30:11 <intinno> Hi Thomas
2008-03-30T18:30:44 <dreimark> Hi intinno
2008-03-30T18:30:49 <intinno> Could you please tell me about the status of jabber integration with notifications from the moinmoin
2008-03-30T18:31:02 <intinno> hi dreimark
2008-03-30T18:31:27 <dreimark> jabber is integrated intp moinmoin. This was a task last year
2008-03-30T18:31:48 <dreimark> and some missing parts for e.g. windows were added due to some ghop tasks
2008-03-30T18:32:00 <dreimark> (1.7 deb)
2008-03-30T18:32:02 <dreimark> dev
2008-03-30T18:32:17 <intinno> Yeah i saw that.
2008-03-30T18:32:38 <intinno> Okay. So, I think now I can use that only for notification
2008-03-30T18:33:18 <intinno> I would use that plugin and we can have jabber/email/rss notifications as per the user needs.
2008-03-30T18:34:50 <intinno> Also, as you suggested, sending hourly mails is also a good idea. Infact we can have a user set the time limit for the same.
2008-03-30T18:34:58 <intinno> And accordingly we can set up the cron tasks.
2008-03-30T18:35:32 <dreimark> ;)
2008-03-30T18:35:43 <dreimark> cd
2008-03-30T18:36:12 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno: it should work on win32 also
2008-03-30T18:36:56 <intinno> ThomasWaldmann: That I will have to see. I have not worked much with windows in past, but I will give it a shot.
2008-03-30T18:37:13 <ThomasWaldmann> (there usually is no "cron")
2008-03-30T18:37:49 <intinno> Triggers then ??
2008-03-30T18:37:50 <dreimark> I think cron needs to be emulated by moin
2008-03-30T18:38:18 <dreimark> you can cache/concat the mails
2008-03-30T18:38:46 <intinno> Yeah, that I can do.. but at the end of day, it should be sent automatically.
2008-03-30T18:39:02 <dreimark> no at the end of the day per user
2008-03-30T18:39:10 <dreimark> timezone
2008-03-30T18:39:21 <intinno> yes ... per user...according to timezone
2008-03-30T18:39:35 <intinno> but how would that be achieved without setting a cronjob..
2008-03-30T18:41:11 <intinno> dreimark: Also, every user will be allowed to set a time after which he wishes to receive the mail/jabber notification, and he would be accordingly send the notification in case of any changes.
2008-03-30T18:41:47 <dreimark> sounds ok
2008-03-30T18:42:39 <dreimark> and may be you give to the user choices
2008-03-30T18:42:40 <intinno> dreimark: Also, I included the traceback functionality because it was in required features list. I am also not sure how will it help.
2008-03-30T18:43:06 <intinno> dreimark: choices like ?? time and notification method ?? .. Right ?
2008-03-30T18:43:23 <dreimark> yeah,0 15mins 1h 2h ....
2008-03-30T18:43:28 <gizmo> msg xorAxAx just to say Hi :) I'm busy today
2008-03-30T18:43:45 <intinno> yes exactly that is what i was talking about
2008-03-30T18:44:34 <dreimark> traceback send by email redirected into a junk folder does not really make sense
2008-03-30T18:44:53 <intinno> yes right
2008-03-30T18:45:21 <dreimark> currently we have already configurable to put it on the page or to store it on a file
2008-03-30T18:45:28 <dreimark> I think that is enough
2008-03-30T18:45:43 <intinno> Okay, So i will remove that from my application.
2008-03-30T18:46:24 <intinno> One more thing, you mentioned that 2nd and 3rd point in my application are related to moin_auth .. what about other auths? .. I didn't actually get that.
2008-03-30T18:46:58 <dreimark> if you setup http_auth you can't change the password from user setup
2008-03-30T18:48:23 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3451:fb5b5f23a056 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/ (8 files): i18n: add some translations
2008-03-30T18:49:09 <dreimark> or if you email the password it is "not emailed"
2008-03-30T18:49:23 <intinno> Ohkay...
2008-03-30T18:49:50 <intinno> So, that I will have to look into and figure out a way.
2008-03-30T18:50:03 <dreimark> ok
2008-03-30T18:50:06 <intinno> for http_auth
2008-03-30T18:50:50 <intinno> Other than that, is there anything else that i should look into ? or you think that rest of the application is fine.
2008-03-30T18:52:31 <dreimark> it looks to me currently that you will have time left after doing these four tasks
2008-03-30T18:52:50 <intinno> Yeah right you are..I was looking into something else which I could add to the list
2008-03-30T18:53:41 <dreimark> please do. at http://moinmo.in/ReimarBauer/UnderConstruction you find lots of examples and text in german ;)
2008-03-30T18:54:16 <intinno> Is there any version in English ?
2008-03-30T18:54:21 <zenhase> i am back
2008-03-30T18:55:00 <dreimark> intinno: not yet may be later (it was done for a book for germans)
2008-03-30T18:55:27 <intinno> dreimark: okay, no problem.
2008-03-30T18:56:36 <dreimark> intinno: the 1.7 branch is very verbose
2008-03-30T18:56:54 <intinno> in terms of ?
2008-03-30T18:57:27 <zenhase> how many applications are there already? :)
2008-03-30T19:01:51 <dreimark> intinno: docstrings
2008-03-30T19:02:29 <dreimark> zenhase: I do count 14
2008-03-30T19:03:13 <intinno> dreimark: okay..good :)
2008-03-30T19:03:17 <zenhase> wow :)
2008-03-30T19:03:25 <zenhase> how many where there last year?
2008-03-30T19:03:30 <zenhase> erm
2008-03-30T19:03:31 <zenhase> were
2008-03-30T19:06:07 <dreimark> I can't remember exactly there were some illegals too 16, 17
2008-03-30T19:06:10 <dennda> If I got that right: xorAxAx said about 15
2008-03-30T19:06:10 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno: please do more work on your time plan. I have some feeling that your tasks are maybe not enough for the duration of SOC.
2008-03-30T19:06:16 <dennda> which meant 4 slots
2008-03-30T19:06:19 <dennda> (as he said)
2008-03-30T19:08:23 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno: also, you should create tests (py.test) before and while working on the features you implement
2008-03-30T19:15:16 <intinno> ThomasWaldmann: Yes I am looking for something else which I can add to the plan.
2008-03-30T19:16:28 <ThomasWaldmann> well, looking at your experience with search / gallery stuff, that sounds like an opportunity
2008-03-30T19:17:18 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: can you resend the messages.. I kind of got disconnected.
2008-03-30T19:17:37 <dreimark> intinno: you may br interested in work on the arnica parser
2008-03-30T19:17:42 <dreimark> 19:16 < ThomasWaldmann> well, looking at your experience with search / gallery stuff, that sounds like an opportunity
2008-03-30T19:17:50 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: there was none else
2008-03-30T19:18:50 <dreimark> intinno__: the old http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/Gallery2
2008-03-30T19:19:02 <dreimark> and the newer http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7-extensions/
2008-03-30T19:19:06 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: You are right. I will look into that. I was also looking for improving the SinglePageSlideShow
2008-03-30T19:19:19 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: e.g. the "fix query parsing / write tests for xapian" would be a good thing
2008-03-30T19:20:30 <zenhase> hmm
2008-03-30T19:22:12 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: I have to see how the integration between the two is done right now(moinmoin and xapian) .. I will include whatever features I would feel like working on by tomorrow.
2008-03-30T19:22:24 <zenhase> is there 'otto allmendinger' present right now? :)
2008-03-30T19:22:35 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark: Thanks a lot for all your valuable comments and feedback :)
2008-03-30T19:22:45 <dreimark> zenhase he is xqj37:
2008-03-30T19:22:52 <dreimark> intinno__: :)
2008-03-30T19:22:55 <zenhase> ah cool
2008-03-30T19:22:55 <xqj37> i just returned
2008-03-30T19:23:05 <zenhase> xqj37: hello fellow karlsruhian
2008-03-30T19:23:15 <xqj37> oh, hello
2008-03-30T19:23:18 <xqj37> small world, eh
2008-03-30T19:23:23 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: btw, there is no application yet for the xapian stuff iirc.
2008-03-30T19:23:51 <zenhase> xqj37: yeah, kind of
2008-03-30T19:23:53 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: ohh, Thanks for the info. And what about email enhancements, Am i the only one ?
2008-03-30T19:23:53 <xqj37> you live in karlsruhe
2008-03-30T19:23:55 <xqj37> ?
2008-03-30T19:23:57 <zenhase> i do
2008-03-30T19:24:02 <zenhase> student myself
2008-03-30T19:24:10 <xqj37> which semester?
2008-03-30T19:24:15 <zenhase> *cough*
2008-03-30T19:24:22 <ThomasWaldmann> :)
2008-03-30T19:24:37 <zenhase> going towards 12th ;)
2008-03-30T19:25:12 <xqj37> well that means that you must have learned very much ;-)
2008-03-30T19:25:23 <zenhase> depends
2008-03-30T19:25:53 <xorAxAx> Master of Science in Procrastination :-)
2008-03-30T19:25:56 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: I think I asked for too much information :D. I will get back here when I would be done with my research on possible additions to my application :)
2008-03-30T19:25:58 <zenhase> i think 1.5 years where lost to some personal issues
2008-03-30T19:25:59 * dreimark checks makecache
2008-03-30T19:26:11 <zenhase> and then there is also so much to learn outside of university
2008-03-30T19:26:11 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: did you use py.test and hg yet?
2008-03-30T19:26:18 <xqj37> yeah I'm planning to lose some years myself
2008-03-30T19:26:18 <zenhase> but yeah, i did learn quite some stuff
2008-03-30T19:26:24 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: Nopes.
2008-03-30T19:26:33 <zenhase> xqj37: oh, may i interest you in the CCC then? :)
2008-03-30T19:26:48 <dreimark> intinno__: see http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/MercurialGuide
2008-03-30T19:26:52 <xqj37> maybe, I don't know
2008-03-30T19:26:58 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: see the mercurial page on moinmo.in
2008-03-30T19:27:14 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: check out 1.7 main branch from hg.moinmo.in
2008-03-30T19:27:24 <intinno__> dreimark: Okay...
2008-03-30T19:27:31 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: look at */_tests/*
2008-03-30T19:28:05 <ThomasWaldmann> intinno__: even if your project would not get chosen, that's very nice and useful stuff to look at
2008-03-30T19:28:22 <dreimark> intinno__: http://agiletesting.blogspot.com/2005/01/python-unit-testing-part-3-pytest-tool.html
2008-03-30T19:28:24 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: Great. Doing that right away :)
2008-03-30T19:28:36 <dreimark> xqj37: if you don't know too please read too
2008-03-30T19:29:57 <xqj37> unformatted source code *shudder*
2008-03-30T19:32:00 <xqj37> so what about the jabber integration? I understand that this has been done already
2008-03-30T19:32:22 <intinno__> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark; thanks a lot for all the info. i will look into all the test modules that you have mentioned and would get back to you tomorrow. Right away, I have to take care of my viva, which is supposed to be tomorrow. :) Thanks again.
2008-03-30T19:34:57 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/GoogleSoc2008?action=diff&rev2=62&rev1=61
2008-03-30T19:35:07 * ThomasWaldmann put some links / hints there
2008-03-30T19:35:14 <zenhase> :)
2008-03-30T19:37:49 <ThomasWaldmann> xqj37: jabber notification is in 1.7
2008-03-30T19:38:12 <xqj37> well there could be jabber administration
2008-03-30T19:38:27 <xqj37> or a jabber bot you could ask questions
2008-03-30T19:38:34 <xqj37> I'm just kidding
2008-03-30T19:40:13 <xqj37> well does somebody have any suggestions?
2008-03-30T19:40:44 <ThomasWaldmann> xqj37: grzywacz is the best guy to ask about jabber stuff
2008-03-30T19:41:18 <xqj37> I'm an experienced hacker for fun but an unexperienced serious coder, but I don't know which task would fit me
2008-03-30T19:42:26 <ThomasWaldmann> well, maybe take something you have personal interest in :)
2008-03-30T19:43:26 <ThomasWaldmann> and you will have to do some investigation on your own, that wiki page just contains some IDEAS, not complete project plans
2008-03-30T19:43:37 <xqj37> okay
2008-03-30T19:46:49 <xqj37> this one seems interesting http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/IntelligentDynamicTables
2008-03-30T19:47:09 <ThomasWaldmann> some stuff is about writing new code, some is about refactoring/improving/fixing existing code
2008-03-30T19:48:28 <ThomasWaldmann> some stuff is of rather fundamental target and importance, some stuff has to be seen as "extras"
2008-03-30T19:49:05 <dennda> Any thoughts about my second application? :)
2008-03-30T19:49:56 <zenhase> if everybody hits the character limit in their applications and there are already 14 or so, then it will take some time for the mentors to work thru that bunch :)
2008-03-30T19:50:27 <dennda> I'm not intending to cause stress
2008-03-30T19:50:39 <dennda> Just in case someone already read it... :)
2008-03-30T19:52:18 <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: that "i don't need to rely on other code" is not quite true
2008-03-30T19:52:43 <ThomasWaldmann> if you write a moin plugin, you usually should use quite some other code of moin
2008-03-30T19:53:01 <ThomasWaldmann> (of course the plugin itself is completely new)
2008-03-30T19:53:25 <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: that - of course - is how I meant it :)
2008-03-30T19:55:36 <ThomasWaldmann> a fundamental question about that project is "what is the advantage to have that in a moin wiki vs. using some external tool"
2008-03-30T19:57:07 <ThomasWaldmann> also, some more ideas about implementation would be nice
2008-03-30T20:01:08 <ThomasWaldmann> 14 applications right now
2008-03-30T20:01:55 * zenhase is wondering how he can get anymore specific in his applications
2008-03-30T20:08:48 <dreimark> lol now every page hit is counted three times
2008-03-30T20:09:38 <zenhase> instant popularity increase
2008-03-30T20:09:44 <zenhase> (at least according to statistics)
2008-03-30T20:10:46 <dreimark> strange no always every some are counted by 1
2008-03-30T20:15:08 <ThomasWaldmann> zenhase: maybe look at the wsgi refactoring wiki page
2008-03-30T20:16:23 <ThomasWaldmann> (and always keep in mind that not everybody installing moin is a wsgi geek / developer, so the transition to a "wsgi moin" must be doable for these people also)
2008-03-30T20:17:06 <grzywacz> re
2008-03-30T20:17:10 <dennda> Can I change my applications text (not the abstract) without side-effects?
2008-03-30T20:18:12 <ThomasWaldmann> zenhase: also note that mod_wsgi is not installed / installable everywhere and there are still cgi users
2008-03-30T20:22:46 <ThomasWaldmann> other than that, I am a fan of it :) never liked to debug/test stuff on x different server interfaces.
2008-03-30T20:29:51 <xqj37> has this idea already taken some concrete form? http://moinmo.in/NetworkOfMoinMoinWikis
2008-03-30T20:37:38 <ThomasWaldmann> xqj37: sister pages, interwiki, interwiki auth exists
2008-03-30T20:39:53 <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: I dropped a comment
2008-03-30T20:41:20 <xqj37> ThomasWaldmann: is there any concept of automatic mirroring?
2008-03-30T20:42:20 <xqj37> i.e. two wikis "shareing" a page
2008-03-30T20:42:39 <xqj37> not by linking but by actually copying the content
2008-03-30T20:45:01 <dreimark> xqj37: wikisync
2008-03-30T20:45:13 <xqj37> damn
2008-03-30T20:45:41 <dreimark> was a project by xorAxAx two years ago
2008-03-30T20:51:49 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3452:0162ba60f379 1.7/MoinMoin/widget/browser.py: widget.browser: reverted changeset 3446: 2ed53a3185de because of incompatibility with info
2008-03-30T20:51:50 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3453:12a285b30b81 1.7/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_StatsChart.py: tests: fix new StatsChart test (create correct request environment including request.page)
2008-03-30T20:51:51 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3454:63fccc14c263 1.7/MoinMoin/parser/_tests/test_text_csv.py: tests: fix test_text_csv test (create correct request environment including request.page)
2008-03-30T20:51:52 <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3455:f0aaecb1a44d 1.7/MoinMoin/script/maint/makecache.py: script.maint.makecache: fixed request.page object
2008-03-30T20:54:05 <xqj37> okay there is is http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnSynchronisation
2008-03-30T20:54:34 <xqj37> how about extending it to more than just two wikis?
2008-03-30T20:56:13 <xqj37> I think about the wikileaks project
2008-03-30T20:56:59 <xqj37> they seem to have multiple mirrors and I wonder if they synchronise the content and how they do it
2008-03-30T20:59:37 <dreimark> utl ?
2008-03-30T20:59:37 <dreimark> url
2008-03-30T21:00:05 <xqj37> for wikileaks?
2008-03-30T21:00:13 <dreimark> yep
2008-03-30T21:01:04 <dreimark> can one help to explain why clicking on the navibar e.g. on PageHits counts sometimes more than one hit?
2008-03-30T21:02:53 <ThomasWaldmann> look into event-log
2008-03-30T21:03:31 <zenhase> re
2008-03-30T21:03:35 <zenhase> ThomasWaldmann: thanks for the info
2008-03-30T21:03:37 <xqj37> okay wikileaks is on www.wikileaks.org
2008-03-30T21:03:55 <zenhase> hmm
2008-03-30T21:04:01 <xqj37> they have currently have offensive material on their front page so watch out
2008-03-30T21:04:05 <zenhase> wikileaks uses modified mediawiki doesn't it?
2008-03-30T21:04:09 <xqj37> yes
2008-03-30T21:04:17 <zenhase> so i think it's mysql replication
2008-03-30T21:04:29 <zenhase> wait
2008-03-30T21:04:36 <zenhase> is it editable for everyone?
2008-03-30T21:05:10 <zenhase> thought it was a "submit stuff, we put it up" kind of thingy
2008-03-30T21:05:19 <zenhase> but then ... wouldn't make sense to use a wiki then
2008-03-30T21:05:35 <zenhase> disregard my musings, i am totally not saying anything useful
2008-03-30T21:05:43 <xqj37> hehe
2008-03-30T21:05:44 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: event-log has only one line per click
2008-03-30T21:05:53 <zenhase> xqj37: query?
2008-03-30T21:06:15 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: then some other code is borked
2008-03-30T21:06:23 <xqj37> zenhase: ok
2008-03-30T21:07:04 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: unfortunately Hits behaves similiar and the tests for Hits don't show this bug
2008-03-30T21:08:33 <dreimark> seems emulating a user is not easy
2008-03-30T21:14:06 <dreimark> bug is in 1.6 too
2008-03-30T21:17:23 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: PageHits works for me
2008-03-30T21:19:48 <dreimark> I tried here http://moinmo.in/PageHits and it does not count +1 always +2
2008-03-30T21:20:00 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I filed a bug report too
2008-03-30T21:20:45 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/ClickOnNavibarIncreasesHitsByMultiplicator
2008-03-30T21:21:39 <ThomasWaldmann> it counts +1 for me, tried several pages
2008-03-30T21:23:11 <dreimark> strange test17 works too
2008-03-30T21:23:24 <dreimark> http://test17.moinmo.in/Hits
2008-03-30T21:23:47 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ah not several pages only PageHits entry in navibar
2008-03-30T21:24:03 <dreimark> and search the page for PageHits
2008-03-30T21:24:49 <dreimark> I stopped clicking in test17
2008-03-30T21:25:54 <ThomasWaldmann> using a public wiki for this is no good :)
2008-03-30T21:26:40 <dreimark> yeah it is on localhost too
2008-03-30T21:27:02 <dreimark> and I guess on PageHits on test17
2008-03-30T21:28:11 <dreimark> test17 may have an older 1.7 or
2008-03-30T21:29:24 <dreimark> the older Hits has used event-log and not the cache (but that is quite slow)
2008-03-30T21:30:05 * dreimark reads proposals again
2008-03-30T21:33:56 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: btw, you did recently some try with http auth (whether sessions work ok), was that 1.7?
2008-03-30T21:35:03 <dreimark> no 1.6 but I can do it in 1.7 too
2008-03-30T21:56:50 <piyush> I would like to apply for Xapian search project
2008-03-30T21:58:57 <piyush> dreimark: I am interested in Xapian search project
2008-03-30T21:59:43 <piyush> i have done my btech and mtech projects in Data Mining
2008-03-30T22:00:21 <piyush> done NLP projects
2008-03-30T22:00:28 <kikka> gn
2008-03-30T22:01:31 <ThomasWaldmann> piyush: there is already xapian code in moin, but we need much more tests, fixing, query parser work, better user interface
2008-03-30T22:01:55 <piyush> okay
2008-03-30T22:02:23 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: I am not familiar with xapian code
2008-03-30T22:02:50 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: what is the farms plugin
2008-03-30T22:03:08 <ThomasWaldmann> piyush: see MoinMoin/search/*
2008-03-30T22:03:17 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: I has good knowledge of how search engines work
2008-03-30T22:03:27 <piyush> and also about python
2008-03-30T22:03:41 <piyush> okay
2008-03-30T22:04:09 <ThomasWaldmann> also do a search for xapian and bug on the moinmo.in wiki
2008-03-30T22:05:36 <ThomasWaldmann> piyush: do you have win32 developing experience?
2008-03-30T22:10:02 <piyush> i use ubuntu
2008-03-30T22:10:22 <piyush> and have done little work on windows specific applications
2008-03-30T22:11:24 <piyush> C++,C, php, jsp, perl, python
2008-03-30T22:11:33 <piyush> java
2008-03-30T22:11:51 <piyush> this project requires win32 based development ?
2008-03-30T22:13:20 <ThomasWaldmann> there is maybe some remaining problem. i recently committed a patch for some win32 platform specific bug, but it is not completely sure it fixed everything.
2008-03-30T22:14:40 <ThomasWaldmann> it is mostly platform independant (testing/fixing win32 xapian problems would be nice, but not strictly required)
2008-03-30T22:16:05 <dreimark> piyush: progress for xapian implementation would be very nice
2008-03-30T22:17:02 <dreimark> night kikka
2008-03-30T22:24:11 <piyush> dreimark: what do you mean ?
2008-03-30T22:26:49 <ThomasWaldmann> piyush: we have quite some xapian code but we can't really use it until it got some bugfixes and more enhancements
2008-03-30T22:28:50 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: I cannot understand the code nowas the time before the GSOC application ends is close
2008-03-30T22:29:06 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: But i would be interested in the project
2008-03-30T22:29:31 <piyush> and over summer i can work on the whole thing full time as I am completely free :)
2008-03-30T22:29:48 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: Graduating this summer :)
2008-03-30T22:30:13 <ThomasWaldmann> graduating and completely free sounds different
2008-03-30T22:30:32 <piyush> 7th May
2008-03-30T22:30:39 <piyush> is when my exams end
2008-03-30T22:30:55 <piyush> and my job is at Yahoo
2008-03-30T22:31:09 <piyush> where I join July end
2008-03-30T22:31:16 <piyush> sometime
2008-03-30T22:33:03 <ThomasWaldmann> program is until august 18 "pencils down date"
2008-03-30T22:33:41 <piyush> I can start early May 10th - July 31st
2008-03-30T22:34:10 <piyush> wil complete my work :) do not worry about that :)
2008-03-30T22:35:53 <piyush> extra
2008-03-30T22:38:04 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, please have a look at the ideas page and the xapian/search related bug reports
2008-03-30T22:38:25 <ThomasWaldmann> so you'll know what it is about
2008-03-30T22:39:06 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: Ya i am currently going through it already !
2008-03-30T22:39:47 <ThomasWaldmann> currently xapian search has quite some issues. The goal in short words would be "make it work great and prove it by lots of unit tests"
2008-03-30T22:40:57 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: okay !
2008-03-30T22:41:47 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: I am looking throught the bug reports
2008-03-30T22:42:12 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: who is the person incolved in combining xapian to mainmain
2008-03-30T22:42:25 <ThomasWaldmann> for the application please use the developer application template
2008-03-30T22:42:25 <piyush> *moinmoin
2008-03-30T22:42:41 <piyush> okay
2008-03-30T22:42:57 <ThomasWaldmann> most of the previous work was done as a summer of code project, with some previous experiments by me
2008-03-30T22:47:14 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3456:8a1992a68cbf 1.7/MoinMoin/events/jabbernotify.py: jabber notification: fix typo in i18ned string
2008-03-30T22:47:14 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3457:836d1706a5fe 1.7/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): merged main
2008-03-30T22:57:07 <piyush> ThomasWaldmann: Thanks Thomas ! I am looking forward to working with MoinMoin over the summers !
2008-03-30T22:57:12 <piyush> gud night
2008-03-30T22:57:33 <dreimark> piyush: night
2008-03-30T22:59:08 <grzywacz> night
2008-03-30T22:59:27 <dreimark> night grzywacz
2008-03-30T23:00:29 <dreimark> 22:56 <+socinfo> "extension" is There may be a deadline extension for student applications, to make sure that orgs have enough great applications to work with. But it is not certain at this time, so don't count on it!
2008-03-30T23:01:28 <xorAxAx> dreimark: old :)
2008-03-30T23:02:43 <dreimark> I know, !extension triggers it
2008-03-30T23:04:10 * dreimark is tired good night
2008-03-30T23:11:35 <xorAxAx> gn dreimark
2008-03-30T23:11:44 <zenhase> gn8 dreimark
2008-03-30T23:13:50 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2008-03-30T23:13:54 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master17.moinmo.in/Aktuelle%C3%84nderungen?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=foo&titlesearch=Titel
2008-03-30T23:13:58 <ThomasWaldmann> wtf?
2008-03-30T23:16:31 <xorAxAx> isnt a bit of foo in everybody of us?
2008-03-30T23:17:31 <zenhase> xorfooAxAx: think so
2008-03-30T23:41:22 <CIA-39> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3458:4f49f6e762a8 1.7/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): removed references to UserPreferences PAGE (now userprefs action), removed reference to SendMyPassword PAGE (gone), add dummy translation for 'Discussion'
2008-03-30T23:41:32 <napi> Evening all
2008-03-30T23:41:44 <ThomasWaldmann> moin napi
2008-03-30T23:47:01 <zenhase> hello napi
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