MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-03-15

2008-03-15T11:10:54  <dreimark> moin
2008-03-15T11:25:18  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-03-15T12:12:56  <TheSheep> moin
2008-03-15T12:18:55  <grzywacz> moin
2008-03-15T12:29:42  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, 2008-03-15 major feature freeze
2008-03-15T12:35:18  <grzywacz> today?:P
2008-03-15T12:36:54  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, and next 2 weeks are mainly preparation for 1.7 beta
2008-03-15T12:37:46  <ThomasWaldmann> == fixing bugs, adding only very small features (if any)
2008-03-15T12:40:33  <ThomasWaldmann> == getting i18n strings stable and in correct english
2008-03-15T12:42:30  <ThomasWaldmann> and I currently think about what to do with moinmaster
2008-03-15T12:52:44  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe duplicating it (a wiki for 1.6 + a wiki for 1.7) and putting a big red hint above it that changes in 1.6 should be kept to the minimum and also have to be done in 1.7.
2008-03-15T12:59:22  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
2008-03-15T14:07:26  <dreimark> bb
2008-03-15T14:08:16  <dreimark> can we use wikisync for adding changes from 1.6 master to 1.7
2008-03-15T14:08:46  <dreimark> for direction down to 1.7
2008-03-15T14:10:41  * dreimark tries to write some tests for the argparser and EmbedObject
2008-03-15T14:11:45  <dreimark> feature freeze is ok with me.
2008-03-15T14:11:52  <ThomasWaldmann> eah, maybe. otoh not any change of 1.6 should be in 1.7
2008-03-15T14:11:52  <dreimark> bbl too
2008-03-15T14:12:47  <dreimark> may be we should have a flag on pages to be ignored for wikisync
2008-03-15T14:14:49  <dreimark> do we really need a master for 1.6 if we do have one for 1.7?
2008-03-15T14:15:39  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: what are the use cases / reasons
2008-03-15T14:16:13  <ThomasWaldmann> after we put the new 1.7 features into the 1.7 master wiki, we can't use it for 1.6 any more. same for i18n strings.
2008-03-15T14:17:05  <ThomasWaldmann> and maybe we want to fix a few things in 1.6 in case 1.7 will take longer than expected or there are more 1.6 releases after 1.7 release.
2008-03-15T14:26:36  <dreimark> we should discuss these reasons with the translators/contributors in the wiki too. We don't want to end up doing the merges ourselfs
2008-03-15T14:27:24  <dreimark> i18n translations are only few pages and we can thinbk about using packages
2008-03-15T14:27:48  <dreimark> for changing a small amount of underlay pages for changes
2008-03-15T14:28:09  <dreimark> I am not sure if we have to keep thw hole 1.6 master writeable for all pages
2008-03-15T14:30:23  <dreimark> if we have to fix something in 1.6 at that time we know which pages need changes
2008-03-15T14:31:52  <dreimark> bbl ~3h
2008-03-15T15:28:06  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: i think renaming is fine because there are only a few users who are using a custom css with rst admon. -- but i tshould be documented in CHANGES because it is an api change
2008-03-15T15:28:20  * xorAxAx had been skiing in the last days as well
2008-03-15T15:28:51  <xorAxAx> dreimark: i will be rather busy in the next days so i dont think that i will have time to change the macro
2008-03-15T15:28:59  <xorAxAx> (its not that difficult anyway)
2008-03-15T17:54:18  <dreimark> xorAxAx: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.7.0/ListOfMacros
2008-03-15T17:55:24  <dreimark> please add the parameter list for that macro
2008-03-15T17:56:13  <dreimark> or definition
2008-03-15T17:56:58  <dreimark> separator is clear but what to use for packline
2008-03-15T17:59:06  * dreimark goes shopping
2008-03-15T21:11:06  <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3259:c538d9029186 1.7/MoinMoin/_tests/test_wikiutil.py: test_wikiutil: testUnitArgument added
2008-03-15T21:11:11  <CIA-39> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3260:b971703ee4a9 1.7/MoinMoin/macro/EmbedObject.py: macro.EmbedObject: beautified output, bug fix for quality param
2008-03-15T21:22:33  <xorAxAx> umm
2008-03-15T21:22:37  <xorAxAx> WTF - applets//FCKeditor/editor/filemanager/browser/default/connectors/php
2008-03-15T21:22:59  <xorAxAx> how can i delete that file? :)
2008-03-15T21:23:28  <xorAxAx> is that a local file system corruption or a hg bug? :)
2008-03-15T21:23:34  <dreimark> johill: see mail bugreport for arg_parser
2008-03-15T21:24:00  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-03-15T21:26:23  <dreimark> xorAxAx: it is a dir for me
2008-03-15T21:27:41  <xorAxAx> local mem/fs corruption :-(
2008-03-15T21:27:59  <xorAxAx> (root fs went r/o)
2008-03-15T21:28:07  <xorAxAx> second time in the last weeks
2008-03-15T21:29:21  <dreimark> sounds like more trouble
2008-03-15T21:33:30  <dreimark> xorAxAx: do you have seen an announcement for ghop t-shirts for mentors?
2008-03-15T21:38:20  <dreimark> bbl
2008-03-15T22:12:11  <dreimark> http://www.surfare.net/~toolman/temp/diagram.html
2008-03-15T22:40:59  <xorAxAx> dreimark: hmm, which announcement?
2008-03-15T22:45:41  <xorAxAx> dreimark: what do you mean by "17:51:34 < dreimark> separator is clear but what to use for packline
2008-03-15T22:47:21  <dreimark> xorAxAx: the arg_parser do wants named parameters.
2008-03-15T22:47:52  <xorAxAx> well
2008-03-15T22:48:16  <dreimark> packline sound a bit not common for users. I have no idea how to translate it
2008-03-15T22:48:26  <xorAxAx> obviously the macro gets 2 args
2008-03-15T22:48:37  <dreimark> and they will be described then
2008-03-15T22:48:56  <xorAxAx> the first one is "separator" and the second one is "packed sequence of msg and arguments"
2008-03-15T22:49:05  <xorAxAx> its not really meant to be used by users
2008-03-15T22:49:38  <xorAxAx> so i think the description can be rather short, pointing out that the user normally doesnt need to use this macro manually
2008-03-15T22:49:49  <dreimark> ok
2008-03-15T22:50:17  <xorAxAx> hm
2008-03-15T22:50:21  <xorAxAx> no, it only gets one argument
2008-03-15T22:50:28  <xorAxAx> and the first character is that separator - implictly
2008-03-15T22:51:01  <xorAxAx> so the name of the param should be something like "arg" ...
2008-03-15T22:52:21  <dreimark> indeed
2008-03-15T22:52:53  * waldi .o0( not argh? ... )
2008-03-15T22:53:04  <dreimark> there was a t-shirt announcement for mentors at the initial document on docs.google
2008-03-15T22:53:09  <dreimark> xorAxAx:
2008-03-15T22:53:32  <xorAxAx> dreimark: how did you notice that it was changed? is there an rss feed?
2008-03-15T22:53:55  <xorAxAx> or do you use docs.google.com regularlyß :)
2008-03-15T22:53:59  <xorAxAx> s/ß/?/
2008-03-15T22:54:08  <dreimark> not much but sometimes
2008-03-15T22:55:05  <xorAxAx> cool - http://www.surfare.net/~toolman/temp/diagram.html
2008-03-15T22:55:06  <dreimark> xorAxAx: section 3 We will also provide a program t-shirt to memb ...
2008-03-15T22:56:04  <dreimark> yeah, I do search regular for css replacements of common stuff
2008-03-15T22:56:22  <xorAxAx> dreimark: indeed. i think asking "lh" (on this network) might make sense
2008-03-15T23:02:03  <dreimark> xorAxAx:  in the gsoc channel or in the Doc file?
2008-03-15T23:02:35  <xorAxAx> dreimark: in a private irc query
2008-03-15T23:02:37  <xorAxAx> or the channel
2008-03-15T23:03:51  <dreimark> make sense
2008-03-15T23:12:06  <dreimark> tried a query, but  no response yet
2008-03-15T23:26:18  <dreimark> gn