MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-03-04

2008-03-04T00:17:24  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2008-03-04T00:39:30  <grzywacz> night
2008-03-04T08:24:54  <dreimark> moin
2008-03-04T08:25:08  <grzywacz> morning
2008-03-04T08:35:19  * dreimark goes to wuppertal now bb in  the evening
2008-03-04T11:39:53  <johill> how different are 1.6/1.7 parsers?
2008-03-04T11:44:51  <TheSheep> johill: I think they are pretty similar atm
2008-03-04T11:45:15  <johill> ok so with 1.6 I'd need the new version of inline-latex too
2008-03-04T11:45:23  <johill> ah well I'll fix that up when somebody asks ;)
2008-03-04T11:46:50  * TheSheep just got a patch for the mandaring theme, to make it work in ie6
2008-03-04T11:46:55  <TheSheep> amazing
2008-03-04T11:47:14  <TheSheep> mandarin*
2008-03-04T14:21:53  <johill> is it about the recent changes?
2008-03-04T14:24:10  <TheSheep> johill: no, about css of the sidebar
2008-03-04T14:24:54  <johill> ok, because somebody was complaining in #moin about the recentchanges and was going to fix it
2008-03-04T14:28:00  <TheSheep> I must have missed that
2008-03-04T14:30:11  <TheSheep> oh wow
2008-03-04T14:30:25  <TheSheep> there is quite a lot of traffic on the mandarin's theme page
2008-03-04T14:30:37  <TheSheep> wonder why I didn't get any mail notifications
2008-03-04T14:32:20  <TheSheep> argh, bugs!
2008-03-04T14:32:28  <johill> with mail notifications?
2008-03-04T14:39:03  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, anybody running a production wiki with apache2/mod_wsgi/moin ?
2008-03-04T14:52:17  <xorAxAx> cb22: re  Travel Planning  , i can see that you edited the page, but you are not in the list
2008-03-04T15:41:55  <dreimark> johill: inline_latex for 1.6?
2008-03-04T16:33:23  <johill> dreimark: 1.7, but not sure how 1.6 is different
2008-03-04T17:09:20  <ThomasWaldmann> http://wiki.codemongers.com/Main < nice
2008-03-04T17:14:49  <dreimark> johill: ok
2008-03-04T17:15:24  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: :)
2008-03-04T17:15:37  <dreimark> but they have lots of spam
2008-03-04T17:16:03  <dreimark> and it is 1.5.4
2008-03-04T17:32:24  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
2008-03-04T17:33:29  <ThomasWaldmann> they even require login, but it does not help...
2008-03-04T17:39:01  <ThomasWaldmann> i left a comment
2008-03-04T18:08:34  <dreimark> if possible we should always use generic strings for msgid
2008-03-04T18:08:43  <dreimark> msgid "Page %(newpagename)s does not exists or you don't have enough rights."
2008-03-04T18:09:05  <dreimark> should be better use the var "pagename" then it make sense on more places
2008-03-04T18:18:10  <dreimark> bbl
2008-03-04T19:55:12  <grzywacz> re
2008-03-04T20:32:53  <johill> http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/N810/p54-notes
2008-03-04T20:33:05  <johill> anybody know what could cause the TOC to look like that?
2008-03-04T20:38:07  <ThomasWaldmann> css problem maybe?
2008-03-04T20:38:43  <johill> yeah probably my own bug :)
2008-03-04T20:44:34  <TheSheep> johill: looks like you set the width of that rectangle to fixed
2008-03-04T20:44:41  <TheSheep> johill: use min-width instead
2008-03-04T20:44:57  <johill> oh, good point. been a while since I did the css for that
2008-03-04T20:44:59  <johill> thanks :)
2008-03-04T20:45:47  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: commons.css width: 50%
2008-03-04T20:46:33  <johill> hah ok, my fault then I guess, sorry
2008-03-04T20:48:17  <ThomasWaldmann> no, modern has same problem
2008-03-04T20:49:00  <johill> oh hm
2008-03-04T20:49:05  <johill> well bbl, phone
2008-03-04T20:51:16  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: is mail notification disabled on moinmo.in?
2008-03-04T20:52:04  <TheSheep> ah, nevermind, I had wrogn e-mail address
2008-03-04T20:58:14  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3182:6e28cd3623a1 1.7/wiki/htdocs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): css: use min-width for table of contents (looks better for long headlines)
2008-03-04T21:04:05  <ThomasWaldmann> bah, fsck, IE has trouble with min-width
2008-03-04T21:09:11  <dreimark> bb
2008-03-04T21:09:24  <dreimark> typing om an XO
2008-03-04T21:25:48  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: even IE7 is broken for min-width X-| Can't they get anything right?
2008-03-04T21:26:46  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: where's will there's way
2008-03-04T21:26:57  <dreimark> probably  not
2008-03-04T21:30:13  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: they should solve the problem once and for all: let you put a <link> with an url of a .dll file with the rendering engine to use for the specific page ;)
2008-03-04T21:32:48  <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
2008-03-04T21:33:04  <TheSheep> that's how they solved the printing problem in .wmf
2008-03-04T21:33:13  <TheSheep> it worked fine
2008-03-04T21:33:53  <TheSheep> I shall patent it and sell to m$
2008-03-04T21:34:45  <ThomasWaldmann> formatc.dll :)
2008-03-04T21:38:24  <dreimark> seems it was fixed in the beta of  march 20.
2008-03-04T21:38:36  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: of course, the user would have a dialog displayed asking him if he's sure he wants to load that page
2008-03-04T21:41:50  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: that's no problem for most users <eg>
2008-03-04T21:51:18  * TheSheep digs through MandarinTheme bug reports
2008-03-04T22:15:58  <johill> hm
2008-03-04T22:16:00  <johill> it's snowing here
2008-03-04T22:31:48  <TheSheep> I need some help. How do I determine whether to show the 'revert' action or not?
2008-03-04T22:31:55  <TheSheep> Can't see it in the code
2008-03-04T22:33:59  <TheSheep> hmm... looks like other themes show it always, that's pretty silly :/
2008-03-04T22:34:16  <johill> look at the action when it denies access?
2008-03-04T22:35:19  <johill> something like (request.user.may.revert() and request.rev)
2008-03-04T22:35:42  <johill> or probably the other way around since request.rev is cheaper and very commonly None
2008-03-04T22:35:46  <TheSheep> johill: yes, but I also want to hide it when showing the current version
2008-03-04T22:35:54  <johill> yes then request.rev is None, no?
2008-03-04T22:35:57  <TheSheep> hmm... good idea
2008-03-04T22:36:10  <johill> request.rev and request.user.may.revert() is better then :)
2008-03-04T22:36:34  <johill> generally I think that it should be unified
2008-03-04T22:36:49  <johill> in the userprefs plugins, the way I did it is that they define an allowed() method
2008-03-04T22:37:15  <johill> if that returns False they're neither shown nor can they be invoked (the generic code actually checks that, no need to test in the plugin)
2008-03-04T23:05:48  <dreimark> johill: does  it need to be checked if it is a valid acl right too?
2008-03-04T23:13:40  <johill> dreimark: for revert?
2008-03-04T23:14:59  <dreimark> someone could have removed the acl right in wikiconfig
2008-03-04T23:16:23  <dreimark> may.revert would probably alwayse be false but I am not sure
2008-03-04T23:16:50  <TheSheep> so, is anyone going to http://rupy.eu/ ? :O)
2008-03-04T23:17:11  <ThomasWaldmann> no, but europython :)
2008-03-04T23:17:13  <johill> dreimark: not sure I understand. PageEditor does exactly the check above
2008-03-04T23:19:53  <dreimark> ok, i do check later the tests at home. currently i don't know what  happens if one removes this right from the accl definition