MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-28

2008-01-28T00:15:27  <ernestas> what's wrong with this page: http://master.moinmo.in/PagalbaXmlPuslapi%C5%B3
2008-01-28T00:15:32  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann ?
2008-01-28T00:16:26  <ernestas> when I click Edit and then hit Preview, it shows normally
2008-01-28T00:16:42  <ernestas> but when I access it directly, there is an error
2008-01-28T00:17:00  <ThomasWaldmann> non-ascii char
2008-01-28T00:17:19  <ernestas> what does this mean?
2008-01-28T00:17:26  <ernestas> I mean, what should I do?
2008-01-28T00:21:57  <ThomasWaldmann> either skip that page or find out how to tell the code involved that you use utf-8, not ascii
2008-01-28T00:28:49  <ernestas> hmm
2008-01-28T00:35:37  <ernestas> seems like docbook parser's malfunctioning. I have removed {{{#!docbook... part and it works
2008-01-28T00:39:17  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, could I just leave {{{ instead of {{{#!docbook ? The LT page without #!docbook renders the same as the original EN doc with #!docbook for me
2008-01-28T00:39:47  <ernestas> (I think not...)
2008-01-28T00:39:54  <ThomasWaldmann> that's because the docbook stuff is not active here
2008-01-28T00:40:11  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe just skip that page, it's not that important
2008-01-28T00:40:19  <ernestas> remove it or leave as it is?
2008-01-28T00:41:02  <ernestas> or... I can add an english docbook example
2008-01-28T00:41:12  <ernestas> and leave everythin else in lt
2008-01-28T00:42:13  <ThomasWaldmann> remove it
2008-01-28T00:43:04  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, wouldn't it be ok like this?: http://master.moinmo.in/PagalbaXmlPuslapi%C5%B3
2008-01-28T00:43:51  <ernestas> I have just replaced the docbook example with the english one
2008-01-28T00:44:30  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2008-01-28T00:46:48  <forrestv_> dreimark: the extra parameter is added by default, and it there in all scripts
2008-01-28T00:46:52  <forrestv_> *is
2008-01-28T00:55:56  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, what does word "pickle" in HelpOnVariables means?
2008-01-28T00:57:15  <ThomasWaldmann> do not translate that
2008-01-28T00:57:18  <ernestas> ok
2008-01-28T00:57:25  <ThomasWaldmann> it's a python module name
2008-01-28T00:57:30  <ernestas> ah, ok
2008-01-28T00:57:51  <ThomasWaldmann> (for serializing stuff)
2008-01-28T01:45:20  <JordanCronin> I'm working on the MacroMarket page (GHOP Task 102) , and I created a template for the macro subpages, does it look ok? http://moinmo.in/MacroMarketTemplate Is there anything I can do to improve it?
2008-01-28T01:45:56  * ThomasWaldmann looks
2008-01-28T01:47:04  <ThomasWaldmann> JordanCronin: http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/Frame maybe make it similar to that
2008-01-28T01:47:17  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, you are late
2008-01-28T01:48:45  <JordanCronin> As in, I should have more completed if I am to be done with this task by tomorrow?
2008-01-28T01:48:57  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-01-28T01:50:39  <JordanCronin> I'm sorry about that, I'll try to get it done soon. I've had several unexpected things come up this past week.
2008-01-28T01:51:55  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, stay logged in under your name. then at least the TextChas won't slow you down.
2008-01-28T01:52:50  <JordanCronin> I was wondering about all of those TextChas... I believe I am logged-in, though.
2008-01-28T01:53:11  <ThomasWaldmann> you shouldnt see any more
2008-01-28T01:53:14  <JordanCronin> it says in the top-left corner "JordanCronin Preferences Logout"
2008-01-28T01:54:04  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2008-01-28T01:55:05  <JordanCronin> Thanks for the tip
2008-01-28T01:55:54  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, I am going to sleep soon. if you have questions, just ask, maybe someone else can answer them. and look at how it was done for ParserMarket,you work should look similar.
2008-01-28T01:56:24  <JordanCronin> Ok, thanks a lot for the help! Have a good night!
2008-01-28T01:57:36  <ThomasWaldmann> gn
2008-01-28T02:13:05  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, I have translated about 30000 characters. I will maybe translate still untranslated pages listed in HelpOnEditing later next week/month, because I'm really busy this moment... I will post translated pages on the isuue tracker
2008-01-28T02:18:23  <ernestas> good night...
2008-01-28T02:33:11  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=6454521153918323669
2008-01-28T03:28:18  * forrestv_ updates issue #103 (help, variable names, users fixed)
2008-01-28T08:38:21  <xorAxAx> hehe
2008-01-28T10:12:15  <dreimark> moin
2008-01-28T10:51:54  <cb22> xorAxAx: 6 hours later :)
2008-01-28T13:55:57  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: PackagesShowsUnzip is ok, even for 1.6
2008-01-28T13:57:33  <ThomasWaldmann> what I am asking myself is, whether that is_zipfile() test result should not also go into a boolean var and get used before it checks is_package (if it is not a zip, it can't be a package, right?)
2008-01-28T13:58:52  <dreimark> yeah
2008-01-28T14:08:45  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i do ask me if checking user.may.write(pagename) for the page where the package is
2008-01-28T14:09:10  <ThomasWaldmann> no
2008-01-28T14:09:11  <dreimark> makes sense because installing can be done on others pages
2008-01-28T14:09:51  <ThomasWaldmann> (one of the main applications for package installing is installing from SystemPagesSetup and that is r/o iirc)
2008-01-28T14:11:07  <dreimark> right, I do fix this too. Do you like to have one or two patches ?
2008-01-28T14:13:00  <ThomasWaldmann> one changeset. you can commit it to 1.7 and after we are happy with it, backport it to 1.6.
2008-01-28T14:13:18  <dreimark> ok
2008-01-28T14:13:34  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, forward porting stuff is more important than fixing such cosmetic stuff
2008-01-28T14:17:43  <dreimark> I do agree, will work on that item too
2008-01-28T14:18:23  * dreimark is downgrading vista to xp for a client and afterwards installing the main OS
2008-01-28T14:18:23  <ThomasWaldmann> in case we get chosen for SOC again, we don't want to work in 1.6 branch.
2008-01-28T14:18:40  <ThomasWaldmann> we even don't want to work in 1.7 branch.
2008-01-28T14:18:56  <ThomasWaldmann> vista to xp is an upgrade :D
2008-01-28T14:19:52  <dreimark> :) but the real OS is linux then and the other one is only needed for guarantee issues
2008-01-28T14:29:15  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3023:4ec124c124c9 1.7/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py:
2008-01-28T14:29:15  <CIA-36> action.AttachFile: bugfix showing unzip for packages, install for superuser
2008-01-28T14:29:15  <CIA-36> on readonly pages too (backport to 1.6)
2008-01-28T14:30:10  * ThomasWaldmann has broken some tests on 1.6
2008-01-28T14:34:16  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2525:8f3a2338af57 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_ImageLink.py: Tests: remove tests for ImageLink macro (macro was removed some changesets ago)
2008-01-28T14:39:29  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2526:a625f31b3441 1.6/MoinMoin/script/migration/_conv160_wiki.py: 1.6 converter: fix ImageLink conversion (we do not have ImageLink any more, but the parser needs to recognize it, because it was a valid macro in 1.5)
2008-01-28T14:43:12  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2527:c7af7747d1bc 1.6/MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: tests: skip broken test
2008-01-28T14:43:36  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, no failing tests in 1.6
2008-01-28T14:43:51  <kikka> Hello!
2008-01-28T14:44:00  <ThomasWaldmann> (action test needs fixing also, I'll look at it later)
2008-01-28T14:44:03  <ThomasWaldmann> hi kikka
2008-01-28T15:15:42  <kikka> Hey ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-28T15:29:14  <ThomasWaldmann> are you still working on GHOP?
2008-01-28T15:29:49  <ThomasWaldmann> kikka:
2008-01-28T15:41:59  <cb22> 16 done / 28 to go... getting there :)
2008-01-28T15:43:36  <ThomasWaldmann> you have 7 hours left :P
2008-01-28T15:49:11  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: you just have to say that as my next episode of mythbusters finishes downloading :p
2008-01-28T15:50:09  <ThomasWaldmann> one has to set priorities :)
2008-01-28T15:50:42  <ThomasWaldmann> but at least you have a realistic chance of finishing
2008-01-28T15:50:55  <ThomasWaldmann> (i don't see that for the macromarket guy)
2008-01-28T15:57:53  <cb22> hehe, priorities? sudo renice -20 ghop-moin
2008-01-28T17:26:25  <starshine> ThomasWaldmann: the one answering php and frontpage for what we use?  he probably thought it was a survery question !
2008-01-28T17:26:32  <starshine> *survey
2008-01-28T17:48:27  <dreimark> bbl
2008-01-28T18:33:35  <kikka> ThomasWaldmann, no.
2008-01-28T18:38:52  <cb22> 21 done / 22 to go :)
2008-01-28T18:39:48  <cb22> btw, is there such a think as a sort table in moin? like click on a column heading and it auto sorts per that field
2008-01-28T18:40:32  <ThomasWaldmann> iirc johill has written such a thing
2008-01-28T18:40:45  <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: if you are bored, we have lots to do :D
2008-01-28T18:41:03  <ThomasWaldmann> free python training! :)
2008-01-28T19:13:56  <cb22> 18 to go :)
2008-01-28T19:29:14  <JordanCronin> ThomasWaldmann, does there need to be an "Install" section on the MacroMarket pages?
2008-01-28T19:30:40  <JordanCronin> There is no "License" Information on any of the Macros (that I have seen yet), so what should I put?
2008-01-28T19:31:19  <ThomasWaldmann> well, we maybe don't need to repeat the generic installation instructions on every subpage
2008-01-28T19:31:30  <JordanCronin> That's what I was thinking
2008-01-28T19:31:48  <ThomasWaldmann> well, if you have no license info, don't put up a license info
2008-01-28T19:32:08  <JordanCronin> Ok, so should I just remove that section on the ones that I don't have any info on?
2008-01-28T19:32:43  <JordanCronin> Instead of having a blank section?
2008-01-28T19:40:22  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: could you tell me what the wikisnl parser does? i cant quite understand...
2008-01-28T20:11:13  <ThomasWaldmann> JordanCronin: keeping a blank section maybe makes some macro authors stating their license :)
2008-01-28T20:11:37  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: never heard of wikisnl
2008-01-28T20:13:15  <ThomasWaldmann> i found it in the chat logs :D
2008-01-28T20:13:37  <cb22> Like you're used to, except you don't do double linewraps, but "wiki single new line" <- ???
2008-01-28T20:13:59  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess it takes the first crlf to make a line break
2008-01-28T20:14:21  <cb22> ah, so it would turn an enter into an actual <br>?
2008-01-28T20:14:29  <ThomasWaldmann> the normal wiki parser merges that line with the next and you only get a new paragraph with 2x crlf
2008-01-28T20:14:43  <ThomasWaldmann> or into a p
2008-01-28T20:14:48  <cb22> ah, thanks :)
2008-01-28T20:15:21  <cb22> only 12 left
2008-01-28T20:16:57  <ThomasWaldmann> sound like a loong night
2008-01-28T20:17:47  <cb22> heh, i'll hopefully be done by midnight :) at this rate, 18 at 20:13 and 12 at 21:15, so roughly 6 per hour
2008-01-28T20:18:13  <cb22> but for example those two wiki ones will probably take me 5 minutes
2008-01-28T20:18:34  * cb22 gets of IRC and back to work :p
2008-01-28T20:18:40  <cb22> off*
2008-01-28T20:42:44  <cb22> 8 left :)
2008-01-28T20:59:41  <JordanCronin> ThomasWaldmann, before I do too many of them, does this look ok? http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/LoginHint
2008-01-28T21:06:53  <ThomasWaldmann> JordanCronin: looks ok. there could be more content, but we can do that later :)
2008-01-28T21:09:09  <JordanCronin> Ok, on the PDFControl Macro, should I put a notice on the old macro page that says that the macro's page has moved to a new url?
2008-01-28T21:09:32  <JordanCronin> It is currently under ActionMarket/PdfAction
2008-01-28T21:12:58  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, if it is closely related to the action, then keep it there
2008-01-28T21:13:21  <ThomasWaldmann> (like if it makes no sense without the action)
2008-01-28T21:13:32  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, gtg, bbl
2008-01-28T21:30:37  <dreimark> JordanCronin: LoginHint is GPL
2008-01-28T21:30:58  <JordanCronin> Thanks dreimark
2008-01-28T21:32:18  <dreimark> AlertDate too
2008-01-28T22:02:19  <JordanCronin> I have a question regarding capitalization... On the MacroMarket page, the Macro "extAction.py" doesn't have a capital first letter. In the subpage I am going to create, should I keep it the same, or should I make it MacroMarket/ExtAction
2008-01-28T22:04:34  <ThomasWaldmann> keep the case as is
2008-01-28T22:04:43  <ThomasWaldmann> you can use [[...]]
2008-01-28T22:17:58  <JordanCronin> What to do with GoToSlide? it is under RichardFlieger/Ideas/GoToSlide should I rename it to MacroMarket/GoToSlide?
2008-01-28T22:26:07  <dreimark> add a note on this page and ask him if he agrees to this refactoring
2008-01-28T22:26:55  <dreimark> cb22: I don't know if you have the same question about case for parsers
2008-01-28T22:27:21  <dreimark> lowercase parsers can be used by the #format command
2008-01-28T22:27:49  <dreimark> sometimes someone doesn't know or doesn't want that so he uses uppercase
2008-01-28T22:30:03  <dreimark> JordanCronin: you can use the action move for attachments
2008-01-28T22:30:44  <JordanCronin> Is that where I can click on "Attachments" and then when it lists them on the page, click "move"?
2008-01-28T22:30:57  <dreimark> right
2008-01-28T22:31:01  <JordanCronin> Got it
2008-01-28T22:31:09  <JordanCronin> That's what I've been doing :)
2008-01-28T22:32:18  <dreimark> hm, I was wondering about RC telling 3m ago #05 Attachment 'PDFIcon1_0_5.py' deleted.
2008-01-28T22:32:41  <dreimark> and 51m aqo #01 Upload of attachment 'PDFIcon1_0_5.py'.