MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-04

2008-01-04T00:00:01  <dreimark> jbardin: you are welcome
2008-01-04T00:02:01  <ThomasWaldmann> also, it would be nice if you use _template.py for your headers
2008-01-04T00:02:20  <ThomasWaldmann> also please use """ not '''
2008-01-04T00:02:43  <ThomasWaldmann> (for python it doesn't make a big difference, but some editors hate ''')
2008-01-04T00:02:49  <MrBawb> ok
2008-01-04T00:03:04  <johill> oh if I only hear that
2008-01-04T00:03:09  <johill> ' is so muc heasier to type :)
2008-01-04T00:03:19  <ThomasWaldmann> you also could run the pep8 source code test on your code
2008-01-04T00:03:34  <ThomasWaldmann> (it will fail)
2008-01-04T00:03:37  <xorAxAx> johill: nah :)
2008-01-04T00:03:50  <johill> you have a stupid layout then ;)
2008-01-04T00:04:01  <MrBawb> ThomasWaldmann: it will fail, and it should pass?
2008-01-04T00:04:14  <MrBawb> I mean, my goal should be to get it to pass
2008-01-04T00:04:25  * dreimark tries to recover himself with sleep
2008-01-04T00:04:30  <dreimark> good night all
2008-01-04T00:05:54  <cb22> MrBawb: for humor i ran pep8.py on pep8.py, it failed ;)
2008-01-04T00:06:09  <MrBawb> cb22: heh
2008-01-04T00:06:34  <cb22> but its only issue was the lines being too long, and considering the moin guidelines tend not to care about those
2008-01-04T00:08:10  <ThomasWaldmann> MrBawb: yes, sure, it should pass
2008-01-04T00:08:20  <MrBawb> ok
2008-01-04T00:08:43  <ThomasWaldmann> and for changes of the size you did, you should also provide tests showing that the stuff works :)
2008-01-04T00:09:18  <MrBawb> yeah, I built tests to do the timing
2008-01-04T00:09:47  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2008-01-04T00:09:50  <MrBawb> I can turn them into proper tests
2008-01-04T00:10:50  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, what is your result in a few words? 4.5s without, 2s with your patch?
2008-01-04T00:11:06  <MrBawb> yeah, that's a full page edit
2008-01-04T00:11:11  <MrBawb> from post to reply
2008-01-04T00:12:53  <MrBawb> the watch.getSubscribers portion of the table shows the largest use of time
2008-01-04T00:13:26  <MrBawb> the 1.5.8 moin code takes 4s to get a list of subscribers
2008-01-04T00:16:40  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe some more comments in your stuff would save some time reverse engineering what you did :)
2008-01-04T00:17:17  <ThomasWaldmann> or what you mean by MoinMoin, MoinMoin full check, ...
2008-01-04T00:17:40  <MrBawb> the headers have a link to the actual code that's run
2008-01-04T00:18:17  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, but the code does not start with a comment
2008-01-04T00:18:35  <MrBawb> ah
2008-01-04T00:18:43  * ThomasWaldmann likes code that has 1 sentence summarizing what it does.
2008-01-04T00:19:00  <MrBawb> the difference is the "full check" code also checks more things per use
2008-01-04T00:19:01  <MrBawb> user
2008-01-04T00:19:14  <MrBawb> which is what the 1.5.8 code does
2008-01-04T00:19:18  <kikka> Good Night
2008-01-04T00:19:21  <MrBawb> vs. just looking for subscribers
2008-01-04T00:19:38  <MrBawb> it's just slightly more work done per user
2008-01-04T00:20:15  <MrBawb> which adds up when you have 7,000 users
2008-01-04T00:20:34  <ThomasWaldmann> MrBawb: where is your authoritative data stored?
2008-01-04T00:20:53  <MrBawb> the wiki data?
2008-01-04T00:21:02  <MrBawb> I'm not sure what you mean by authoritative
2008-01-04T00:21:02  <ThomasWaldmann> subscription data
2008-01-04T00:21:35  <MrBawb> so I picked the sheleve - indexed by pattern method
2008-01-04T00:21:37  <ThomasWaldmann> not the cache, the real stuff. when you lose it, you're fscked.
2008-01-04T00:21:48  <MrBawb> ah, that's not a cache
2008-01-04T00:21:53  <MrBawb> it's a database
2008-01-04T00:21:56  <xorAxAx> yes, its different from what i designed
2008-01-04T00:22:04  <xorAxAx> MrBawb: i wonder why you didnt pick up my ideas
2008-01-04T00:22:18  <MrBawb> xorAxAx: I didn't see them
2008-01-04T00:22:21  <xorAxAx> were a bit simpler and maybe even faster
2008-01-04T00:22:29  <MrBawb> xorAxAx: I'd like to hear them
2008-01-04T00:22:34  <xorAxAx> MrBawb: we already talked about it
2008-01-04T00:22:57  <xorAxAx> i already explained it 4 times to people who are related to fedora :)
2008-01-04T00:23:10  <MrBawb> xorAxAx: ah, they didn't pass that on to me
2008-01-04T00:24:16  <MrBawb> I have an implementation there of a plain text storage method
2008-01-04T00:24:20  <ThomasWaldmann> MrBawb: we have moin-dev channel logs on the wiki
2008-01-04T00:24:40  <ThomasWaldmann> (not sure whether it happened here, though)
2008-01-04T00:24:51  <MrBawb> ThomasWaldmann: maybe I was looking in the wrong place for them, but I wasn't able to find those logs
2008-01-04T00:26:45  <MrBawb> ah, here they are
2008-01-04T00:39:34  <ThomasWaldmann> i added some stuff to the FR page
2008-01-04T00:40:29  <MrBawb> ok
2008-01-04T00:42:21  <ThomasWaldmann> the rough idea is that it is nice to have authoritative data in text files
2008-01-04T00:42:54  <ThomasWaldmann> and speed it up by non-auth. cache. you can kill the cache and it get's rebuild from the text files.
2008-01-04T00:50:24  <MrBawb> so you have two copies of the data?
2008-01-04T00:51:04  <xorAxAx> depends on the exact data structure
2008-01-04T00:52:04  <MrBawb> I don't like having two copies because they tend to get out of sync
2008-01-04T00:52:13  <MrBawb> someone ends up editing one of them by hand for example
2008-01-04T00:53:52  <xorAxAx> MrBawb: its only one primary version
2008-01-04T00:54:04  <xorAxAx> MrBawb: all other ones are views to it
2008-01-04T00:54:32  <xorAxAx> also they may be binary pickles or whatever
2008-01-04T00:54:43  <xorAxAx> and they will be in a cache directory
2008-01-04T00:54:46  <xorAxAx> so people wont touch them :)
2008-01-04T00:55:02  <xorAxAx> and if somebody touched them, he can simply delete them
2008-01-04T00:55:43  * ThomasWaldmann reviews #92
2008-01-04T00:57:18  <MrBawb> how do you feel about storing them in a text file instead of a binary database?
2008-01-04T00:57:23  <MrBawb> I have an implementation of that too
2008-01-04T00:58:01  <xorAxAx> we will have a look at it
2008-01-04T00:58:37  <MrBawb> oh, and last thing before I have to go
2008-01-04T00:59:03  <MrBawb> the times that y'all are active in here match the times I'm at work
2008-01-04T00:59:18  <MrBawb> so I don't have much free time
2008-01-04T00:59:30  <MrBawb> I'd like to do this via email
2008-01-04T00:59:35  <xorAxAx> which tz are you in?
2008-01-04T00:59:44  <xorAxAx> MrBawb: we prefer using the wiki :)
2008-01-04T00:59:58  <xorAxAx> did you already subscribe to the featurerequest page?
2008-01-04T00:59:58  <MrBawb> I'm in CST, -6
2008-01-04T01:00:19  <MrBawb> using the wiki makes sense too
2008-01-04T01:11:20  * cb22 wonders whats going to happen with his free time for ghop when holidays end :/
2008-01-04T01:11:33  <cb22> then again, i never really did like doing school work
2008-01-04T01:15:21  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, we all need clones :)
2008-01-04T01:18:19  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ?? at your comment?
2008-01-04T01:18:53  <cb22> never mind
2008-01-04T01:19:11  <cb22> bah :(
2008-01-04T01:19:13  <ThomasWaldmann> python won't read your mind
2008-01-04T01:19:29  <cb22> for __future__ import mindreader?
2008-01-04T01:19:31  <cb22> from*
2008-01-04T01:20:14  <ThomasWaldmann> python has SOME rather excotic stuff, but a or b in l is not implemented. :)
2008-01-04T01:21:10  <ThomasWaldmann> but a not in l works :)
2008-01-04T01:21:34  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: hehe, oh well :) i guess i'l have to settle for if "--help" in args or "-h" in args:
2008-01-04T01:22:04  <ThomasWaldmann> isnt there a better way like xorAxAx suggested?
2008-01-04T01:22:27  <cb22> nope, the opt parser doesnt touch anything after command subcommand
2008-01-04T01:22:36  <cb22> (well atleast not one that i could see)
2008-01-04T01:23:40  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, maybe add a comment about that
2008-01-04T01:24:08  <cb22> to what, the source or the tracker?
2008-01-04T01:24:14  <ThomasWaldmann> the src
2008-01-04T01:27:32  <cb22> something like We have to use the args list here instead of optparse, as optparse only deals with things coming before command subcommand. ?
2008-01-04T01:27:51  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-01-04T01:30:36  <cb22> ok, updated
2008-01-04T01:32:41  <cb22> i should've tested that "-h" or "--help" one more ;) although i wonder why it did what it did (ie the if statement was always true)
2008-01-04T01:39:43  <grzywacz> night
2008-01-04T01:39:51  <ThomasWaldmann> gn grzywacz
2008-01-04T01:40:07  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: a nonempty string is true
2008-01-04T01:48:22  <cb22> ah, now i get it
2008-01-04T01:48:42  <cb22> it was doing a if "-h" OR "--help" in list
2008-01-04T01:48:54  <cb22> and "-h" would always be true
2008-01-04T01:52:30  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
2008-01-04T01:53:06  <ThomasWaldmann> in fact most languages will even short circuit evaluate that
2008-01-04T01:53:49  <johill> trivia you didn't want to know: in pascal it depends on a compiler switch :)
2008-01-04T01:55:32  <ThomasWaldmann> --dumb :)
2008-01-04T01:56:57  <cb22> well, if the pascal compiler is anything like growisofs it would probably be '--use-the-force-luke i-relaly-want-to-enable-this-even-though-i-know-it-is-not-a-good-idea'
2008-01-04T01:58:36  <ThomasWaldmann> it can be needed for dirty side effects
2008-01-04T02:00:07  <ThomasWaldmann> aaaah
2008-01-04T02:00:56  <johill> well actually the default is 'full evaluation'
2008-01-04T02:03:25  <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/rev/7da4c11b1888
2008-01-04T02:03:34  * ThomasWaldmann fixes that
2008-01-04T02:06:43  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: are you around?
2008-01-04T02:08:14  <YoniWiz> dreimark: are you around?
2008-01-04T02:11:09  <ThomasWaldmann> YoniWiz: dreimark is sleeping
2008-01-04T02:11:21  <ThomasWaldmann> ninnnu: reading? :)
2008-01-04T02:11:41  <cb22> http://qdb.us/95266
2008-01-04T02:11:43  <cb22> hehehe
2008-01-04T02:13:42  <cb22> i've already read through digg and /. so now im reduced to irc quotes :(
2008-01-04T02:14:37  * ThomasWaldmann learned another meaning of whitespace
2008-01-04T02:15:08  <cb22> hehe
2008-01-04T02:15:09  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: what?
2008-01-04T02:15:34  <ThomasWaldmann> nothing one likes to know
2008-01-04T02:16:45  <YoniWiz> i do not get it
2008-01-04T02:16:47  <YoniWiz> but okay
2008-01-04T02:17:12  <cb22> YoniWiz: did you click the link?
2008-01-04T02:17:57  <YoniWiz> no
2008-01-04T02:18:01  <YoniWiz> i am swampped in hmwk
2008-01-04T02:18:02  <YoniWiz> :-)
2008-01-04T02:19:58  <cb22> if homework:
2008-01-04T02:20:05  <cb22>     rais TooLazyException
2008-01-04T02:20:14  <cb22> raise*
2008-01-04T02:20:24  <YoniWiz> :-)
2008-01-04T02:22:03  <cb22> YoniWiz: what grade + country you in?
2008-01-04T02:22:23  <YoniWiz> 11 and in Maine, America
2008-01-04T02:22:30  <YoniWiz> *U.S.A
2008-01-04T02:22:34  <YoniWiz> you?
2008-01-04T02:23:38  <cb22> going into 11 on the 14th of january, in south africa
2008-01-04T02:23:48  <YoniWiz> what???
2008-01-04T02:23:54  <YoniWiz> how can you go into a new grade mid-year?
2008-01-04T02:23:55  <cb22> (and no, there are no lions running around)
2008-01-04T02:24:04  <YoniWiz> I know, I know people from south africa
2008-01-04T02:24:11  <cb22> different years
2008-01-04T02:24:13  <YoniWiz> i love the music... well at least the one band I know of and its old
2008-01-04T02:24:19  <cb22> s/years/terms/
2008-01-04T02:24:34  <YoniWiz> OHHHHH you already had your "summer break" since this is your summer
2008-01-04T02:24:39  <YoniWiz> WOAH! thats weird!!!! aewsome
2008-01-04T02:24:39  <cb22> yep
2008-01-04T02:24:48  <YoniWiz> have u ever heard Juluka?
2008-01-04T02:24:51  <cb22> although ours is quite short, 6 weeks or so
2008-01-04T02:25:32  <cb22> yep, a lttle
2008-01-04T02:26:57  <cb22> i'll tell you why i mentioned the lion thing: i was on holiday last year, around this time on a cruise in the carribean. so these two girls seem to be following me so i strike up a converation with them
2008-01-04T02:27:35  <cb22> and we talk and i ask where they are from, and they ask me where im from. i reply south africa
2008-01-04T02:28:09  <cb22> they stare at me for 30 seconds or so, before one finally says 'south africa? do you have lions in your garden there?'
2008-01-04T02:28:16  <cb22> but n the most serious voice ever
2008-01-04T02:28:16  <YoniWiz> wow
2008-01-04T02:28:23  <YoniWiz> hahahahahah
2008-01-04T02:28:26  <YoniWiz> wow
2008-01-04T02:28:36  <cb22> yeah, i burst out laughing
2008-01-04T02:28:43  <YoniWiz> ahahah
2008-01-04T02:28:58  <YoniWiz> so do you get longer breaks other times in the year?
2008-01-04T02:29:12  <YoniWiz> and thats good to have a shorter summer becasue i forget so much over the summer
2008-01-04T02:29:22  <YoniWiz> it is detrimental to me education to have such a long summer
2008-01-04T02:29:31  <YoniWiz> too much of an interupption
2008-01-04T02:29:42  <cb22> how long are yours? 3 months?
2008-01-04T02:30:03  <cb22> we have 6 weeks summer, 3 weeks winter, 2 weeks spring / automn
2008-01-04T02:30:15  <cb22> so 13 weeks total
2008-01-04T02:31:04  <cb22> still, having such a long holiday must rock
2008-01-04T02:31:27  <YoniWiz> nice
2008-01-04T02:31:36  <YoniWiz> yeah like 3 months
2008-01-04T02:31:38  <YoniWiz> then 1 or 2 winter
2008-01-04T02:31:52  <cb22> although i prefere winter holidays, in the winter you dont really need excuses to sit and play on your computer all day
2008-01-04T02:32:01  <YoniWiz> like 1 feb and 1 spring but many schools do like 2 or 3 straigh for spring
2008-01-04T02:32:13  <YoniWiz> prefere is that a typo or how it is spelled in SA?
2008-01-04T02:32:39  <YoniWiz> (no offense that is just me being curious without bothering to word the question diplomatically)
2008-01-04T02:33:00  <cb22> heh
2008-01-04T02:33:12  <cb22> im not sure
2008-01-04T02:33:24  <cb22> although afaik it is valid
2008-01-04T02:34:08  <cb22> it could alo just be a 3:33am typo
2008-01-04T02:34:11  <cb22> also*
2008-01-04T02:36:06  <cb22> anyways, im off to sleep. night all
2008-01-04T02:38:00  <YoniWiz> nightt
2008-01-04T02:38:14  <YoniWiz> afaik
2008-01-04T02:38:17  <YoniWiz> what is that?
2008-01-04T02:38:42  <cb22> as far as i know
2008-01-04T02:39:26  <YoniWiz> ooo
2008-01-04T02:39:27  <YoniWiz> cool
2008-01-04T07:13:26  <ninnnu> ThomasWaldmann: Oh... I hoped that someone had finally got a working antigravity-module. :P Oh well, I have to remember that if somebody asks.
2008-01-04T09:00:45  <dreimark> moin
2008-01-04T09:17:21  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-01-04T09:17:40  <ThomasWaldmann> ninnnu: did you read the bug report?
2008-01-04T09:55:23  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do we have somewhere a place to collect talks e.g. MoinMoinTalks ?
2008-01-04T09:55:55  <dreimark> *already
2008-01-04T10:19:59  <ninnnu> ThomasWaldmann: Oh,  thought you meant the line above the hilighted one...
2008-01-04T10:35:52  <grzybacz> moin
2008-01-04T10:36:24  <ninnnu> Either I'm slow, or tired, or just failing with English, or all of those, but I can't find a connection between a bug report and my language-statistics-patch-thing.
2008-01-04T10:38:08  <xorAxAx> ninnnu: he should have given you an ur
2008-01-04T10:38:12  <xorAxAx> ur
2008-01-04T10:38:13  <xorAxAx> l
2008-01-04T10:48:53  <dreimark> ninnnu: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.6.0LanguageIgnoreBrowserConfigurationError
2008-01-04T10:49:57  <dreimark> it is a quite new entry in RC
2008-01-04T10:53:35  <ninnnu> Thanks
2008-01-04T11:39:59  <kikka> moin
2008-01-04T12:29:12  <ThomasWaldmann> moin kikka
2008-01-04T12:31:22  <ThomasWaldmann> ninnnu: look at the way you made a function out of those few lines of code. and note that the "return func()" returns in every case, making everything after it pretty useless.
2008-01-04T12:33:49  <ThomasWaldmann> (btw, a function not explicitely returning something will implicitely return None when its end is reached)
2008-01-04T12:41:29  <ninnnu> I guess "return ''" would be enough? That's a string, not NoneType -> no crash?
2008-01-04T12:42:04  <ninnnu> or "else: return ''"...
2008-01-04T12:42:31  <ThomasWaldmann> well, don't guess, but implement something making sense :)
2008-01-04T12:47:27  <ninnnu> I can implement something that won't crash, but I don't guarantee that it makes sense :)
2008-01-04T12:48:47  <ThomasWaldmann> you maybe do not want '' as a language in your stats data
2008-01-04T12:49:18  <ninnnu> True..
2008-01-04T12:58:27  <ThomasWaldmann> ninnnu: look at requestLanguage(). go through it line by line...
2008-01-04T13:00:44  <ninnnu> Yeah, I'm working on it, noticed that "return ''" wasn't so good idea...
2008-01-04T13:20:28  <ninnnu> ThomasWaldmann: Actually the language-statistics-macro parses '' as Browser default... So it doesn't necessarily need patching :)
2008-01-04T13:29:20  <ninnnu> http://linuxblondit.sektori.org/langbug.patch ?
2008-01-04T13:49:15  <ThomasWaldmann> ninnnu: looks better
2008-01-04T13:50:01  <ThomasWaldmann> if lang == ''    ->    if not lang
2008-01-04T13:50:28  <ThomasWaldmann> (and remove the comment there)
2008-01-04T13:50:57  <ThomasWaldmann> +    return '' # If above fails, return at least something instead of NoneType      move this to func docstring
2008-01-04T13:56:59  <rafael> no nice issues left :(
2008-01-04T13:57:07  <cb22> rafael: i agree :/
2008-01-04T13:57:20  <cb22> although xorAxAx did say we can suggest some from the bug tracker
2008-01-04T13:58:13  <rafael> or feature requests?
2008-01-04T13:58:26  <cb22> think so too
2008-01-04T14:00:07  <xorAxAx> indeed, only one boring code task
2008-01-04T14:00:13  <xorAxAx> yes, we will need to do an import
2008-01-04T14:01:08  <cb22> yay :)
2008-01-04T14:01:29  * cb22 makes a mental note: no python after 1:00am
2008-01-04T14:01:50  <cb22> it took me a ful 8 minutes to figure out why if "--help" or "-h" in args: is a retarded statement :/
2008-01-04T14:02:16  <rafael> xorAxAx: http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/BlockQuote mh?
2008-01-04T14:02:42  <xorAxAx> rafael: not really :)
2008-01-04T14:02:50  <xorAxAx> thats too fundamental
2008-01-04T14:03:47  <ninnnu> ThomasWaldmann: Now?
2008-01-04T14:04:04  <xorAxAx> gah, still the blinx crap pages :-(
2008-01-04T14:04:15  <xorAxAx> blinx: can you fix that please?
2008-01-04T14:04:17  <rafael> xorAxAx: and http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/DatePicker ?
2008-01-04T14:04:28  <xorAxAx> blinx: the wrongalignedattachment pages should be deleted
2008-01-04T14:04:51  <xorAxAx> rafael: how should that work?
2008-01-04T14:04:54  <xorAxAx> moin doesnt have forms
2008-01-04T14:05:13  <xorAxAx> and if you build your own form that has date fields, you can include a date picker by using a js lib
2008-01-04T14:05:53  <rafael> xorAxAx: when i understood it right, there will be a popup form in form of a calendar like it is on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev and by clicking on that date you see the chagnes
2008-01-04T14:06:09  <xorAxAx> rafael: no, he wants to have the date in a table
2008-01-04T14:06:18  <xorAxAx> what do you mean by "see the changes"?
2008-01-04T14:06:24  <blinx> xorAxAx: sec
2008-01-04T14:06:47  <rafael> xorAxAx: ah
2008-01-04T14:07:00  <rafael> the changes made on that day in the wiki or on the page
2008-01-04T14:07:05  <rafael> wasn't really clear to me
2008-01-04T14:09:47  <blinx> xorAxAx: now the WrongAlignedAttachment/* pages are deleted
2008-01-04T14:10:51  <xorAxAx> there are 4 tagged feature requests
2008-01-04T14:11:01  <xorAxAx> these need to be converted into easytodo subpages
2008-01-04T14:11:17  <xorAxAx> so if you are interested in them, you can create new easytodo subpages
2008-01-04T14:11:46  <xorAxAx> because i cant import featurerequests directly
2008-01-04T14:16:47  <ThomasWaldmann> ninnnu: looks good
2008-01-04T14:17:07  <ThomasWaldmann> did you reproduce the bug and test your patch?
2008-01-04T14:18:13  * ThomasWaldmann works on the forward ports list (1.6 > 1.7)
2008-01-04T14:18:43  <ninnnu> At least I failed on crashing anything after setting language_ignore_browser true and logging in/out, setting languages etc...
2008-01-04T14:19:39  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, please attach your patch to the bug report page
2008-01-04T14:20:38  <xorAxAx> cb22: e.g. that dump pages into zip page could be created as an easytodo subpage
2008-01-04T14:21:02  <cb22> xorAxAx: isnt it already?
2008-01-04T14:21:52  <xorAxAx> i cant find it at least
2008-01-04T14:21:58  <xorAxAx> there is only an FR page
2008-01-04T14:22:25  <cb22> ah right
2008-01-04T14:22:31  <cb22> i just saw CategoryEasy
2008-01-04T14:23:06  <xorAxAx> and i like remember username as ewll
2008-01-04T14:23:23  <xorAxAx> so if anybody likes the task, he could create the stub page
2008-01-04T14:23:28  * cb22 creates it as an easytodo subpage
2008-01-04T14:24:39  <cb22> lol @ my textcha: 6 * 7 =)
2008-01-04T14:26:46  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: these are selected questions, not auto generated :)
2008-01-04T14:27:38  <cb22> hehehe
2008-01-04T14:27:58  <cb22> what, so you mean moin is not the highly intelligent AI i thought it to be?
2008-01-04T14:28:20  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, we'll have to do a _() review in 1.7 after doing the forward ports (either trying to forward port the 1.6 work on _() or just repeating it)
2008-01-04T14:28:31  <cb22> xorAxAx: how does http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/DumpPagesIntoZip look
2008-01-04T14:28:52  <ThomasWaldmann> that could be some ghop task
2008-01-04T14:29:15  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ah, so thats why 1.6 had formatted=False and such?
2008-01-04T14:30:12  <ThomasWaldmann> see changeset:   2241:48e2234997a9
2008-01-04T14:30:25  <ThomasWaldmann> (and some more after that one)
2008-01-04T14:31:17  <cb22> Radomir Dopieralski == TheSheep ?
2008-01-04T14:31:28  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
2008-01-04T14:31:44  <cb22> the email gave it away :)
2008-01-04T14:38:14  <ninnnu> ThomasWaldmann: Attachment sent, should I also put something about it to the bug-page itself?
2008-01-04T14:38:18  <xorAxAx> cb22: please include a link to the FR
2008-01-04T14:40:09  <cb22> xorAxAx: done (i think)
2008-01-04T14:41:56  <ThomasWaldmann> ninnnu: yeah, a link to it telling that this patch fixes the problem
2008-01-04T14:42:14  <ThomasWaldmann> but dont close the bug, we will do when committing the patch
2008-01-04T14:42:57  <ninnnu> Ok, page edited
2008-01-04T14:57:45  <dreimark> xorAxAx: http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/ConvertActionsToActionBase
2008-01-04T14:58:21  <xorAxAx> dreimark: ?
2008-01-04T14:58:24  <dreimark> I am not sure if it does make sense to use the ActionBase on every of the listed actions
2008-01-04T14:58:41  <xorAxAx> ah, you mean removing them from the list
2008-01-04T14:58:50  <xorAxAx> yes
2008-01-04T15:00:02  <dreimark> yes, only from the list
2008-01-04T15:00:48  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if we could find some easytodos speeding the way to 1.7, that would be nice
2008-01-04T15:04:57  <xorAxAx> wow, id has 200 million speakers
2008-01-04T15:13:08  <cb22> id?
2008-01-04T15:16:23  <xorAxAx> indonesian
2008-01-04T15:18:40  * xorAxAx pushes 2 new issues
2008-01-04T15:19:05  <cb22> xorAxAx: out of interest, how does it work?
2008-01-04T15:19:23  <xorAxAx> cb22: the pushing? see contrib/googleimport :)
2008-01-04T15:20:00  <cb22> nifty
2008-01-04T15:20:11  <xorAxAx> ok, done
2008-01-04T15:21:09  <CIA-25> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2486:83c26d300ecd 1.6/contrib/googleimport/driver.py: Shortened the task desc a bit when printing it, pushed 2 new tasks.
2008-01-04T15:27:00  <cb22> cool, now if someone could please review my task, i've tested it this time and not just blindly edited the patch!
2008-01-04T15:35:26  <CIA-25> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2487:d5cc91fb5f16 1.6/contrib/googleimport/driver.py: Add a list of pushed bugs to make incremental pushes easier. One bug report is not pushed yet.
2008-01-04T15:39:47  <rafael> xorAxAx: issue #98: only .zip or .tar or something, too?
2008-01-04T15:40:40  <xorAxAx> i think .zip is fine
2008-01-04T15:44:34  <rafael> wasn't there another dump pages task already with a little other exercise?
2008-01-04T15:47:31  <dreimark> xorAxAx: ThomasWaldmann are you happy with issue 85 too ?
2008-01-04T15:47:53  <xorAxAx> rafael: see the wiki page
2008-01-04T15:48:07  <xorAxAx> dreimark: i dont care :)
2008-01-04T15:48:39  <xorAxAx> BRB
2008-01-04T15:49:32  <dreimark> rafael: zip
2008-01-04T16:13:00  <ernestas> moin dreimark
2008-01-04T16:13:29  <dreimark> hi ernestas I am waiting for a comment of ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-04T16:13:39  <ernestas> ok
2008-01-04T16:15:18  <ernestas> something wrong with it?
2008-01-04T16:17:42  <ernestas> I could fix :)
2008-01-04T16:22:35  <ernestas> well, ok, I'll wait.
2008-01-04T18:09:08  <blinx> xorAxAx: is it ok now?
2008-01-04T18:09:19  <blinx> I was busy till now
2008-01-04T18:09:34  <xorAxAx> blinx: yep, thanks
2008-01-04T18:09:38  <blinx> np
2008-01-04T18:44:10  <bolekk> moin
2008-01-04T19:08:31  <dreimark> bbl
2008-01-04T19:54:37  <grzywacz> moin
2008-01-04T20:23:48  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-01-04T20:32:03  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: i review your stuff right now
2008-01-04T20:41:25  <CIA-25> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2488:10f6149e998b 1.6/ (20 files in 9 dirs): improved moin script's builtin help function, thanks to Federico Lorenzi
2008-01-04T20:42:18  <theredmonkey> moin
2008-01-04T20:42:54  <cb22> yay :)
2008-01-04T20:43:27  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: the patch does not apply to 1.7. if you have some time later, after we backported all the other stuff from 1.6, you could help us by porting your patch to 1.7
2008-01-04T20:43:57  <cb22> sure, no problem
2008-01-04T20:44:22  <cb22> s/backported/forwardported/ :)
2008-01-04T20:44:57  * cb22 claims #98
2008-01-04T20:45:24  * dreimark comment 98
2008-01-04T20:46:20  <cb22> dreimark: now just a qucik question :) previously i did the same thing, but in reverse. i made a script out of an action
2008-01-04T20:46:46  <cb22> now, i n eed to make an action out of a script
2008-01-04T20:47:19  <cb22> in the last one, the actual code was contained in the action, and the script was just a simple wrapper
2008-01-04T20:47:45  <cb22> should i refactor the dump script to follow the same example?
2008-01-04T20:48:14  <xorAxAx> cb22: makes sense - copying code is stupid for such things
2008-01-04T20:49:54  <dreimark> cb22: yep
2008-01-04T20:51:20  <dreimark> cb22: and do respect acls and do use a ticket for the form
2008-01-04T20:51:35  <dreimark> and the ActionBase
2008-01-04T20:53:46  <cb22> will do
2008-01-04T20:53:58  <cb22> any well written actions that i should look at?
2008-01-04T20:58:59  <dreimark> cb22: e.g. RenamePage, CopyPage, DeletePage
2008-01-04T21:13:34  * ThomasWaldmann reviews 55 now
2008-01-04T21:59:41  <YoniWiz> dreimark: ThomasWaldmann: xorAxAx: I am just saying hi and will be posting a new version later
2008-01-04T22:00:42  <xorAxAx> ok
2008-01-04T22:48:36  * dreimark seems  have to buy tomorrow a new HD or a new computer 
2008-01-04T22:49:21  <blinx> <- heia
2008-01-04T22:50:32  <dreimark> gn blinx
2008-01-04T23:18:54  <dreimark> gn
2008-01-04T23:35:41  <kikka> good night
2008-01-04T23:43:26  <ThomasWaldmann> gn kikka
2008-01-04T23:58:12  <YoniWiz> hello all
2008-01-04T23:58:30  <YoniWiz> who is reimar bauer?
2008-01-04T23:58:44  <YoniWiz> dreimark: is that you?