2007-12-25T00:22:43 <cb22> happy christmas from south africa :)
2007-12-25T00:44:25 <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: merry xmas 2u2 :)
2007-12-25T00:44:46 * ThomasWaldmann still edits CHANGES...
2007-12-25T01:18:10 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2483:8aa26f1a2238 1.6/docs/CHANGES: reduced CHANGES and improved readability for release
2007-12-25T01:32:26 <ThomasWaldmann> anyone still awake?
2007-12-25T01:32:31 <johill> barely
2007-12-25T01:33:02 <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/files/moin-1.6.0.tar.gz :)
2007-12-25T01:33:13 <johill> shiny
2007-12-25T01:33:14 <johill> :)
2007-12-25T01:33:45 <ThomasWaldmann> needs some testing before I announce it
2007-12-25T01:35:50 <cb22> ooh
2007-12-25T01:35:58 <cb22> a secret releace :)
2007-12-25T01:36:02 <cb22> release*
2007-12-25T01:36:17 <ThomasWaldmann> still, yes
2007-12-25T01:36:47 <ThomasWaldmann> would be good if some people try it. >2 tired eyes see more than 2 tired eyes |-)
2007-12-25T01:37:53 <cb22> hehe, sure
2007-12-25T01:42:15 <cb22> although my eyes would probably count as one, considering each is half closed :)
2007-12-25T01:47:23 <cb22> http://xkcd.org/
2007-12-25T01:47:30 <cb22> how appropriate
2007-12-25T01:51:20 <ThomasWaldmann> lol
2007-12-25T01:51:39 <ThomasWaldmann> he's also working on a xmas release :D
2007-12-25T01:52:12 <cb22> the thing that freaked me was that its 2:50am here!
2007-12-25T01:53:03 * cb22 does a quick spin through 1.6
2007-12-25T01:56:00 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann, everything seems fine
2007-12-25T01:58:50 <cb22> lots of changes :)
2007-12-25T02:01:38 <cb22> anyways, im off to bed
2007-12-25T02:01:40 <cb22> night all
2007-12-25T02:05:02 <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: gn (and thanks for testing)
2007-12-25T02:06:02 <ThomasWaldmann> johill: any comments?
2007-12-25T02:06:15 <johill> haven't looked yet, sorry
2007-12-25T02:08:27 <ThomasWaldmann> no problem :)
2007-12-25T02:20:08 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2484:9178bd7e91be 1.6/ (MoinMoin/version.py moin.spec): bumped version to 1.6.0
2007-12-25T02:20:11 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2485:6decf2567879 1.6/.hgtags: tagged release 1.6.0
2007-12-25T03:23:19 * ThomasWaldmann announced it on mm wiki, freshmeat and wikimatrix
2007-12-25T03:26:30 <starshine> ThomasWaldmann: ping :D
2007-12-25T03:30:19 <ThomasWaldmann> hi starshine :) merry xmas!
2007-12-25T03:30:55 <starshine> ThomasWaldmann: very merry indeed!
2007-12-25T09:00:50 <dreimark> should not have goto so early to bed, one failing test
2007-12-25T09:01:48 <dreimark> so it shows tests do work (a hello world test)
2007-12-25T09:11:17 <starshine> also merry XO-mas
2007-12-25T09:23:40 <dreimark> starshine: merry xmas
2007-12-25T09:23:50 <dreimark> some X0 arrived?
2007-12-25T09:24:09 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moin.sourceforge.net/ -> newlink
2007-12-25T09:28:03 <starshine> two of them did, maybe you really will get yours before new years
2007-12-25T09:28:46 <dreimark> fine :)
2007-12-25T09:36:28 * dreimark hooray it is out :) :) :) :)
2007-12-25T09:36:48 <dreimark> s/out/released/
2007-12-25T09:46:17 <starshine> yay we got rid of the greenbar on the website too :)
2007-12-25T10:23:09 <cb22> starshine: tsk, you got less then 6 hours sleep according to my irssi logs :p
2007-12-25T10:23:42 <starshine> cb22: yeah that's probably true; I only napped this afternoon
2007-12-25T10:23:56 <starshine> it's about 1:20 or so am in my timezone.
2007-12-25T10:24:23 <cb22> where abouts are you? america?
2007-12-25T10:24:29 <starshine> yeah, west coast
2007-12-25T10:24:49 <cb22> ah, well, happy christmas :)
2007-12-25T10:24:53 <starshine> :D
2007-12-25T10:25:08 <cb22> (for an hour and 20 moniutes ago)
2007-12-25T10:27:18 <starshine> thanks
2007-12-25T10:27:29 <starshine> speaking of sleep, good idea, thanks for the bug report
2007-12-25T10:27:38 <starshine> I think I'll go fix that right now ;>
2007-12-25T10:27:41 <cb22> hehe
2007-12-25T10:27:48 <cb22> before you do, xkcd.org
2007-12-25T10:28:37 <starshine> :)
2007-12-25T10:28:52 <starshine> I know that feeling, some days
2007-12-25T10:29:21 <starshine> goodnight, everyone.
2007-12-25T10:29:40 <cb22> gn starshine
2007-12-25T12:06:06 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-12-25T12:34:29 <dreimark> gn starhine
2007-12-25T14:01:09 <theredmonkey> moin
2007-12-25T14:27:45 <ernestas> where can I find moin 1.6 debian package?
2007-12-25T14:31:35 <ernestas> I'm working on the TWikiDrawOnDebian task
2007-12-25T14:32:26 <ernestas> Or should I use the original moin package? Although the reporter of the bug used the debian one.
2007-12-25T14:33:52 <dreimark> ernestas: 1.6 is now ~12h old. debian will need some time
2007-12-25T14:34:04 <ernestas> should I wait?
2007-12-25T14:35:28 <ernestas> dreimark, how long does it take to get a new version into debian?
2007-12-25T14:36:54 <dreimark> ernestas: too long, see http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/moin.html
2007-12-25T14:37:02 <ernestas> dreimark, can I use the original package instead of the debian one in this task?
2007-12-25T14:37:51 <dreimark> ernestas: please try the debian ones first, because that report could be related to a debian version
2007-12-25T14:38:19 <ernestas> hm. that's not good.
2007-12-25T14:38:29 <dreimark> why
2007-12-25T14:38:41 <dreimark> take the 1.5.8 one
2007-12-25T14:38:41 <ernestas> I'm not going to wait several weeks for 1.6 release
2007-12-25T14:38:45 <ernestas> ok
2007-12-25T14:38:57 <ernestas> it's said I have to try with 1.6 in the task ;)
2007-12-25T14:39:27 <ernestas> but if 1.5 is ok, that's fine
2007-12-25T14:43:37 <rafael> hm, when i make a list with a lot of self.request.write(..) stuff, then is the self.request.write(..) stuff in the table html code, isn't it?
2007-12-25T14:43:47 <rafael> btw, merry christmas to all of you
2007-12-25T14:44:15 <dreimark> rafael: merry christmas too
2007-12-25T14:44:46 <dreimark> you did a list of the values or?
2007-12-25T14:45:40 <rafael> yes, i will do
2007-12-25T14:46:48 <dreimark> xorAxAx: ThomasWaldmann issue 39, I think this is related to a debian version of MM. 1.5.8 is currently available only
2007-12-25T15:09:25 <ernestas> dreimark, can I use Java 1.5? Or should I use the older one?
2007-12-25T15:09:28 <rafael> dreimark: so is it html or wiki source?
2007-12-25T15:12:45 <cb22> dreimark: could you take a look at my task please? #49 i'm not sure whats left to do
2007-12-25T15:32:48 <dreimark> cb22: someone responded on the MM wiki, do you have seen?
2007-12-25T15:32:58 <ernestas_> dreimark, if you have given me an answer, could you please repeat it, because I got timed out... And I have one more question: where can I get twikidraw.jar from? I have downloaded it from http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/TWikiDrawPlugin but the md5 does not match
2007-12-25T15:34:21 <dreimark> ernestas_: normally the twikidraw is part of MM. I don't know it is with the debian version
2007-12-25T15:34:22 <dreimark> please check this first
2007-12-25T15:34:33 <ernestas_> ok
2007-12-25T15:34:34 <dreimark> java 1.5 is fine
2007-12-25T15:35:04 <ernestas_> ok, thanks
2007-12-25T15:40:03 <cb22> dreimark: ah, thanks, i didnt notice that
2007-12-25T18:23:07 <ernestas> dreimark, that's from /usr/share/moin/htdocs/applets/TWikiDrawPlugin/README: This applet has not yet been packaged for Debian. for now it is available at http://debian.jones.dk/auryn/pool-all/official/moin/twikidraw/
2007-12-25T18:23:15 <ernestas> and when I visit this site...
2007-12-25T18:23:28 <ernestas> I get FORBIDDEN: You don't have permission to access /auryn/pool-all/official/moin/twikidraw/ on this server.
2007-12-25T18:41:42 <kikka> moin
2007-12-25T18:41:45 <dreimark> http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:VrnJFW-goQMJ:debian.jones.dk/auryn/pool-all/official/moin/twikidraw/+debian+twikidraw&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=de
2007-12-25T18:41:48 <dreimark> moin kikka
2007-12-25T18:43:23 <kikka> Hello dreimark
2007-12-25T18:43:28 <dreimark> ernestas: same for ubuntu http://www.ubuntu-pt.org/wiki/applets/TWikiDrawPlugin/
2007-12-25T18:43:41 <ernestas> dreimark, ok
2007-12-25T18:46:48 <bolekk> moin
2007-12-25T18:46:53 <ernestas> moin
2007-12-25T18:51:29 <bolekk> dreimark: thanks for your comment, self.request.page.page_name is working now in browser.py.
2007-12-25T18:59:04 <bolekk> dreimark: you aked me to fix some actions, is it only a matter of creating new class inheriting from ActionBase, and changing execute() only to make use of it ? (as it is done for example in RenamePage ?)
2007-12-25T19:07:01 <dreimark> bolekk: Hi bolekk
2007-12-25T19:07:32 <dreimark> yeah it is, then it is inhireted from ActionBase
2007-12-25T19:09:35 <bolekk> dreimark: quite a lot of actions do not do that, should i fix everyone ?
2007-12-25T19:10:09 <dreimark> I was thinking about to add a further issue about the others
2007-12-25T19:10:35 <dreimark> because it sounds like a different kind of task
2007-12-25T19:12:07 <bolekk> dreimark: I think so... If you do this I will eagerly apply for that one
2007-12-25T19:12:52 <dreimark> hehe
2007-12-25T19:14:13 <bolekk> dreimark: as for my previous question about fixing a line in polish translation, can I add myself to that MoinPagesEditorGroup ?
2007-12-25T19:14:24 <dreimark> sure
2007-12-25T19:14:52 <bolekk> dreimark: and just to be 100% sure, the word 'package' in 'Package Pages' action is a verb, isn't it ?
2007-12-25T19:15:35 <dreimark> it is you are right
2007-12-25T19:32:38 <bolekk> dreimark: Done. I also attached a new patch with all that forms working on google page. Should I do anything else for that task ?
2007-12-25T19:34:38 <dreimark> bolekk: it looks good and i think it is done
2007-12-25T19:35:00 <dreimark> I do some tests and then I will close the issue
2007-12-25T19:38:08 <kikka> I've got an answer from intevation, I'll write the case story on 24c3
2007-12-25T19:41:49 <dreimark> kikka: ok
2007-12-25T19:42:19 <kikka> Oh, he missed questions :o
2007-12-25T19:46:41 <rafael> dreimark: ThomasWaldmann: yesterday you gave me some tips to order my code. but the problem still exists (the vcard only renders address fields). here's the code http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17351/ - http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17352/ (old version, without better naming etc.)
2007-12-25T19:58:27 <dreimark> bolekk: closed
2007-12-25T19:58:43 <bolekk> thank you :)
2007-12-25T20:12:42 <dreimark> rafael:
2007-12-25T20:12:44 <dreimark> [{u'UID': (u'e586d4e8547de772ba1ab6079db50d03',)}, {u'REV': (u'2007-12-20T22\\:05\\:34Z',)}, {u'N': (u'Bauer;Reimar;;;',)}, {u'VERSION': (u'2.1',)}, {u'EMAIL': ([u'INTERNET'], u'rb.proj@googlemail.com')}, {u'FN': (u'Reimar Bauer',)}, {u'X-GENERATOR': (u'vCardMaker 0.6.4 (http://vcardmaker.wackomenace.co.uk/)',)}]
2007-12-25T20:13:16 <dreimark> if i select view of my vcard
2007-12-25T20:13:52 <rafael> dreimark: hm yes, i inserted a print there. just delete the line self.request.write(str(data)) in text_vcard.py
2007-12-25T20:14:01 <rafael> but for me looks the list ok
2007-12-25T20:15:34 * dreimark adds breakpoints
2007-12-25T20:18:14 <rafael> breakpoints?
2007-12-25T20:27:12 <dreimark> I do use pydev with eclipse if I like to debug something
2007-12-25T20:36:17 <dreimark> rafael: "if k == o: in ordered" does fails with my vcard example always
2007-12-25T20:36:31 <dreimark> so the card list is empty after ordering
2007-12-25T20:37:15 <dreimark> k = unicode: N
2007-12-25T20:37:32 <dreimark> o = str: n
2007-12-25T20:38:14 <rafael> dreimark: but it works fine with hcards
2007-12-25T20:39:14 <rafael> dreimark: ah. it works now. thank you very much for helping me. it was a missing .lower() at k
2007-12-25T20:39:21 <dreimark> I am not sure if the casesensitive is a good idea
2007-12-25T20:39:55 <dreimark> rafael: do you know eclipse and pydev ?
2007-12-25T20:40:34 <rafael> dreimark: well, the hcardparser returns lowercased stuff and in vcards is everything uppercased
2007-12-25T20:41:42 <rafael> dreimark: i heard from the eclipse ide, but never used it. i'm a vim fan
2007-12-25T20:42:53 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: /me too, still ThomasWaldmann has recognized pydev
2007-12-25T20:43:19 <dreimark> some screencasts http://showmedo.com/videos/series?name=PyDevEclipseList
2007-12-25T20:45:59 <dreimark> rafael: is it somewhere defined to be uppercase otherwise it has to be done case insensitive
2007-12-25T20:47:38 <rafael> dreimark: indeed. this is better. i now added .lower() by generating the data list in text_vcard.py
2007-12-25T20:51:35 <dreimark> may be you like to replace this write_table by the DataBrowserWidget for an example see macro ShowSmileys
2007-12-25T20:53:46 <ernestas> dreimark, hm, I can't reproduce this error. My drawings can be saved and are shown on page. I'm using moin 1.5.8 package from debian testing branch and Sun Java 1.5_14: http://moinmo.in/ErnestasLiubarskij?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=screenshot.png
2007-12-25T20:55:56 <ernestas> and twikidraw.jar from MoinMoin wiki (http://moinmo.in/OliverGraf/TWikiDrawPlugin) md5 is the same as in the bug
2007-12-25T20:56:13 <rafael> dreimark: what's the advantage of using DataBrowserWidget?
2007-12-25T20:57:08 <dreimark> ernestas: yeah we are searching since some "days" for someone who likes to maintain it
2007-12-25T20:57:35 <dreimark> ernestas: can you edit this drawing and save again
2007-12-25T20:57:41 <ernestas> yes, I can
2007-12-25T20:57:55 <ernestas> I have done this several times with those drawings
2007-12-25T20:58:15 <dreimark> then add a note to the issue tracker. ThomasWaldmann and xorAxAx may have questions too.
2007-12-25T20:58:26 <ernestas> ok
2007-12-25T21:00:17 <dreimark> rafael: currently it is a table whith some nice formatting. In 1.7 we will have a new version from johill :) which has lots of features e.g. sorting
2007-12-25T21:02:59 * dreimark watches now the Simpsons movie bbl
2007-12-25T21:09:52 <ernestas> xorAxAx, ThomasWaldmann I have commented #39 and added a screenshot http://moinmo.in/ErnestasLiubarskij?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=screenshot.png
2007-12-25T21:47:26 <rafael> where is an example output of the text/plain formatter? or how can i simply generate output?
2007-12-25T22:24:45 <ernestas> good night
2007-12-25T22:36:23 <rafael> dreimark: but how to work with it? the ShowSmileys was not clear to me. i have an output list, where i put the columns (in which format?) in and give this list the DataBrowserWidget().setData()
2007-12-25T22:38:02 <dreimark> rafael: the last lines of http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=ShowAmes.py
2007-12-25T22:40:23 <rafael> dreimark: eh. and how can i seperate the key and the value stuff?
2007-12-25T22:40:56 <rafael> ah. found it out
2007-12-25T22:54:39 <rafael> dreimark: and how can i bold text? i mean i make result.append(value)..
2007-12-25T23:20:52 <ThomasWaldmann> re
2007-12-25T23:21:16 <cb22> hi ThomasWaldmann
2007-12-25T23:49:20 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: after re-reading http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/DeprecatedDoubleContent i understand that it isn't really liked that #deprecated does what it does. i have created a simple patch that instead changes the usage to #deprecated <reason>. what do you think of this?
2007-12-25T23:50:32 <ThomasWaldmann> well, that would limit reason to a single line
2007-12-25T23:51:00 <ThomasWaldmann> (and maybe even without wiki markup)
2007-12-25T23:51:34 <ThomasWaldmann> so although I see it would be easier, it would be also more limited.
2007-12-25T23:52:01 <ThomasWaldmann> (and content would be found by search)
2007-12-25T23:52:43 <cb22> i see, yes it would limit to a single line with no markup. would it be possible to have something like #deprecated <insert many lines here> #/deprecated
2007-12-25T23:53:22 <cb22> afaik the content being found by searching is a different issue?
2007-12-25T23:53:24 <ThomasWaldmann> we just keep it like it is and suggest reading the documentation to everybody who is wondering
2007-12-25T23:54:16 <ThomasWaldmann> well, if you remove all content except the deprecation reasioning, it naturally does not find the old content
2007-12-25T23:54:30 <ThomasWaldmann> except if you use xapian and search the old versions also
2007-12-25T23:54:41 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: hmm, i see
2007-12-25T23:55:27 <cb22> although imho MartinBayer on MoinMoinBugs/DeprecatedDoubleContent does make a valid point about the wiki engine changing code
2007-12-25T23:57:54 <ThomasWaldmann> well, according to that Include macro is also evil
2007-12-25T23:58:28 <ThomasWaldmann> (well it is evil, but that is more because its implementation is evil) MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-12-25 (last edited 2007-12-24 23:30:02 by IrcLogImporter)
