MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-12-20

2007-12-20T02:19:04  <rafael> xorAxAx: ping
2007-12-20T09:54:41  <grzybacz> moin
2007-12-20T09:57:59  <dreimark> moin
2007-12-20T10:02:54  * dreimark reads 62
2007-12-20T10:38:06  <xorAxAx> rafael: pong
2007-12-20T10:49:28  * dreimark comments 62
2007-12-20T11:07:33  <dreimark> johill: do we have a special parameter to set the separator for the args (default: ",") from within the macro call
2007-12-20T11:10:07  <dreimark> and how  proceed with units? e.g. is it possible to enter something similiar to width=int(%,px)
2007-12-20T11:18:24  <rafael> xorAxAx: but it's not nice if i print the type in an own part if it's "cell" just for telephone or something
2007-12-20T11:19:19  <xorAxAx> rafael: hmm?
2007-12-20T11:19:31  <xorAxAx> rafael: the idea is that you generate a section in the table for every type
2007-12-20T11:20:14  <rafael> yes
2007-12-20T11:20:19  <rafael> an own section for just one type?
2007-12-20T11:21:02  <xorAxAx> yes, why not?
2007-12-20T11:21:26  <rafael> hm k
2007-12-20T11:22:26  <rafael> xorAxAx: how can i create a section or sth. like this? i'm not well grounded about tables in html..
2007-12-20T11:22:46  <xorAxAx> you just have a cell with colspan 2 and bold font in it
2007-12-20T11:23:04  <rafael> that's for every field
2007-12-20T11:23:14  <xorAxAx> hmm?
2007-12-20T11:23:31  <TheSheep> xorAxAx: semantic html?
2007-12-20T11:23:49  <rafael> it gets printed as || key || value ||and *got* printed as || key || type || value ||
2007-12-20T11:23:58  <xorAxAx> TheSheep: how? :)
2007-12-20T11:24:10  <xorAxAx> rafael: hmm?
2007-12-20T11:24:24  <TheSheep> xorAxAx: {{{#!vcard ... }}}  :)
2007-12-20T11:24:48  <rafael> xorAxAx: what hmm?
2007-12-20T11:25:32  <xorAxAx> rafael: i dont understand the problem
2007-12-20T11:26:21  <rafael> hm i try bold it and look then forward
2007-12-20T11:36:18  <johill> dreimark: no
2007-12-20T12:07:12  <grzywacz> xorAxAx: looks like ricardo had some problems setting up Moin
2007-12-20T12:07:35  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: he pasted the traceback here, the login action is broken
2007-12-20T12:07:56  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: so if you can reproduce that issue, i would close the task and give it up - 1.7 seems to be too broken
2007-12-20T12:09:48  <grzywacz> xorAxAx: ok, but no sooner that in the evening
2007-12-20T12:52:47  <rafael> xorAxAx: hm, i'm a bit confused at the moment.. i have a dict types that looks like {type: [(key, value)]} - but i think this is wrong and how to handle multiple types? eg. if a email has internet and office as type?
2007-12-20T12:56:43  <xorAxAx> then it shows up in both groups
2007-12-20T12:56:54  <xorAxAx> or do you mean if an entry has multiple types?
2007-12-20T12:56:59  <xorAxAx> hmm
2007-12-20T12:57:05  <xorAxAx> thats bad, indeed
2007-12-20T12:59:18  <rafael> xorAxAx: yes, i mean the second
2007-12-20T12:59:33  <xorAxAx> ok, if that is allowed, drop the grouping idea
2007-12-20T13:01:24  <dreimark> johill: How do you like to enter units ?
2007-12-20T13:01:40  <johill> units?
2007-12-20T13:02:10  <johill> dreimark: you can quote everything
2007-12-20T13:02:41  <johill> <<macro("a,b,c,d", "7cm", "2.1""")>>
2007-12-20T13:02:45  <rafael> xorAxAx: i'm not sure, but i think so because vobject.vCard.line.singletonparams is a list
2007-12-20T13:03:04  <johill> will come out as ['a,b,c,d', '7cm', '2.1"']
2007-12-20T13:03:59  <rafael> xorAxAx: ah. yes, it is. because i found cards that have ADR;type=HOME;type=pref:;; in the internet
2007-12-20T13:07:49  <rafael> xorAxAx: so a lot of work is to no purpose, but now i can extend my old solution and i already cleaned the code
2007-12-20T13:41:38  <dreimark> johill: sorry have had a phonecall.
2007-12-20T13:42:50  <dreimark> but I do enter '7cm' the parser does not get that it has to start with a number
2007-12-20T13:43:04  <dreimark> s/I/if I/
2007-12-20T13:43:56  <johill> right
2007-12-20T13:44:01  <johill> units per se aren't handled
2007-12-20T13:44:20  <johill> you could probably add a new class for default with units
2007-12-20T13:45:12  <johill> something like "length=LengthParameter('7cm')" that would automatically convert all sorts of units into each other and also take 2m, 2km, 5mi, 1parsec ;)
2007-12-20T13:45:43  <dreimark> parsec ;)
2007-12-20T13:48:05  <grzywacz> ;-)))
2007-12-20T13:48:09  <grzywacz> 1ly
2007-12-20T13:48:14  <johill> ly?
2007-12-20T13:48:18  <grzywacz> Parsec is a stupid unit.
2007-12-20T13:48:20  <grzywacz> Light year.
2007-12-20T13:48:28  <johill> AE
2007-12-20T13:48:32  <johill> there are lots of stupid units ;)
2007-12-20T13:48:40  <johill> nonetheless, they have exact conversions to m
2007-12-20T13:48:41  <dreimark> hm or something like length=7('cm',), length=7('cm','mm') so in last one someone knows only 'cm' or 'm' is valid
2007-12-20T13:48:42  <grzywacz> Mostly imperial ones.
2007-12-20T13:48:43  <johill> which is all that counts :P
2007-12-20T13:48:44  <grzywacz> nautical mile
2007-12-20T13:48:45  * grzywacz dies
2007-12-20T13:48:45  <grzywacz> ;]
2007-12-20T13:49:01  <dreimark> mm
2007-12-20T13:49:05  <johill> dreimark: if mm/cm is valid then why not m?
2007-12-20T13:49:06  <grzywacz> http://www.google.com/search?q=1+parsec+in+nautical+miles&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
2007-12-20T13:49:09  <grzywacz> :D:D:D
2007-12-20T13:49:10  <johill> I mean you could write 100000000mm
2007-12-20T13:49:39  <ThomasWaldmann> http://master.moinmo.in/SystemPagesInLithuanianGroup anyone knows why this looks bold? is it because of the font used for lithuanian?
2007-12-20T13:49:47  <johill> I think if a length is required the unit shouldn't matter
2007-12-20T13:49:48  <dreimark> they all could be valid, but we do use currently a list to show parameters to use only
2007-12-20T13:50:05  <johill> the documentation should make it clear which order of magnitude makes sense :)
2007-12-20T13:50:12  <dreimark> :)
2007-12-20T13:50:23  <johill> ok right, that'd look something like
2007-12-20T13:50:41  <johill> length=LengthArg('7mm'), no?
2007-12-20T13:50:52  <johill> then by the default arg you'd also give a order of magnitude hint
2007-12-20T13:51:32  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2448:2c980ae3dfe5 1.6/MoinMoin/i18n/ (6 files): updated i18n
2007-12-20T13:51:36  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2449:c5951fc28c24 1.6/ (docs/INSTALL.html wiki/underlay.tar.bz2): updated install-docs, updated underlay
2007-12-20T13:52:05  <johill> dreimark: I'm not sure what you mean with "we use a list to show parameters t ouse only"
2007-12-20T13:52:15  <johill> right now we use a list if you only have a choice, no?
2007-12-20T13:52:23  <johill> like colour=['red', 'green', 'blue']
2007-12-20T13:52:29  <dreimark> right
2007-12-20T13:52:52  <johill> but a length is totally different, no? or do you want lengths that can be only 1,2,3mm but allow them to write 0.001m?
2007-12-20T13:53:41  <johill> in that case I'd just use l=['1mm', '2mm', '3mm'] since I don't see a point in allowing other units?
2007-12-20T13:54:11  <dreimark> ah, no, EmbedObject will need units for width and height
2007-12-20T13:54:23  <johill> ah
2007-12-20T13:54:28  <johill> you want mm vs. px
2007-12-20T13:54:38  <dreimark> yeah, so we can enter 100 % or 100 px
2007-12-20T13:55:07  <johill> I see. that's harder
2007-12-20T13:55:09  <dreimark> and we don't want one to enter every 'nonsense' unit
2007-12-20T13:55:50  <dreimark> and images too (not only EmbedObject)
2007-12-20T13:55:59  * TheSheep like em
2007-12-20T13:56:18  <dreimark> :)
2007-12-20T13:58:21  <dreimark> in short words may be ....width=int(em, px, %)
2007-12-20T13:58:53  <TheSheep> mm can be useful for printing...
2007-12-20T13:59:14  <ThomasWaldmann> any last words for rc2? :)
2007-12-20T14:00:04  <johill> dreimark: well, that's tougher. I guess you don't people to enter 0.02m and convert that to mm ;)
2007-12-20T14:00:26  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: go and multiply
2007-12-20T14:00:29  <johill> dreimark: maybe something generic
2007-12-20T14:00:51  <johill> dreimark: width=UnitValue('7mm', int, ['mm', '%', 'px'])
2007-12-20T14:01:07  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: you want 3.2.0 ? :)
2007-12-20T14:01:34  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: these were worsd for rc2
2007-12-20T14:01:38  <TheSheep> words
2007-12-20T14:01:46  <TheSheep> johill: you skipped em :)
2007-12-20T14:01:54  <johill> whatever :)
2007-12-20T14:03:52  <TheSheep> http://htmlhelp.com/reference/css/units.html
2007-12-20T14:03:58  * TheSheep adds to the confusion
2007-12-20T14:04:38  <johill> who cares? we're discussing a generic way where you can add as many units as you like
2007-12-20T14:05:38  <TheSheep> johill: we are?
2007-12-20T14:05:59  <johill> well, we. you may not be ;)
2007-12-20T14:06:06  * TheSheep looks for Modula specs
2007-12-20T14:10:19  * ThomasWaldmann will be away today afternoon/evening, btw.
2007-12-20T14:10:31  <dreimark> TheSheep: it's only an example
2007-12-20T14:11:42  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I am happy with all our added creole patches before rc2 :)
2007-12-20T14:13:29  <TheSheep> johill: so you want to do something similar to field types in django's models?
2007-12-20T14:14:43  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: sometimes unwanted delays are good
2007-12-20T14:14:47  <dreimark> :)
2007-12-20T14:17:58  <johill> TheSheep: no idea, what are field types?
2007-12-20T14:18:32  <TheSheep> johill: it has an ORM, and you define the database fields in your objects like this:
2007-12-20T14:19:02  <dreimark> bbl (talks)
2007-12-20T14:19:06  <TheSheep> class MyDatabaseObject(BaseDatabaseObject):
2007-12-20T14:19:35  <TheSheep>   some_filed = djangosomething.CharField(length=255)
2007-12-20T14:19:47  <TheSheep> etc.
2007-12-20T14:20:01  <johill> something similar
2007-12-20T14:20:17  <TheSheep> there are ready filds for time, date, currency, etc.
2007-12-20T14:20:18  <johill> def macro_TableOfContents(macro, depth=1): ...
2007-12-20T14:20:25  <johill> would do a default depth of 1 and require an int
2007-12-20T14:21:04  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2450:d22ebcb43c19 1.6/ (MoinMoin/version.py docs/CHANGES moin.spec): bumped version to 1.6.0rc2, updated CHANGES etc.
2007-12-20T14:21:06  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2451:bb6279c7f85e 1.6/.hgtags: tagged 1.6.0rc2
2007-12-20T14:34:26  <johill> dreimark: done
2007-12-20T14:35:51  <xorAxAx> TheSheep: happy birthday
2007-12-20T14:35:54  <xorAxAx> umm, ThomasWaldmann
2007-12-20T14:38:54  <grzywacz> ;-)
2007-12-20T14:42:16  <johill> and me? ;)
2007-12-20T14:42:35  <xorAxAx> johill: its your birthday as well?
2007-12-20T14:42:51  <johill> I didn't know it was ThomasWaldmann's
2007-12-20T14:42:54  <johill> yes
2007-12-20T14:43:12  <johill> birthday paradoxon at work ;)
2007-12-20T14:43:29  <xorAxAx> then happy birthday as well :)
2007-12-20T14:43:29  <xorAxAx> hehe
2007-12-20T14:43:32  <dreimark> johill: ThomasWaldmann !! Happy birthday !!
2007-12-20T14:43:32  <TheSheep> happy birthday to both of you *<:)
2007-12-20T14:44:01  <johill> :)
2007-12-20T14:46:22  <rafael> i should do ', '.join([type.capitalize() for type in x[1]]) instead of ', '.join(type.capitalize() for type in x[1]) to stay compatible with 2.3 shouldn't i?
2007-12-20T14:47:03  <xorAxAx> yes
2007-12-20T14:47:20  <rafael> and happy birthday you both :)
2007-12-20T14:48:00  <johill> dreimark: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/patches/moin/wiki-parse-extend.patch
2007-12-20T14:48:04  <johill> dreimark: please test
2007-12-20T14:50:01  <johill> I'll go home now and skate a bit or something, sun's still shining I hope ;)
2007-12-20T14:51:28  <johill> dreimark: feel free to commit, should apply to 1.6 too
2007-12-20T14:51:35  <johill> dreimark: 1.6 has all this code just doesn't use it :)
2007-12-20T14:54:08  <johill> (reload, made a small optimisation)
2007-12-20T14:55:36  <johill> oh it needs a fix for that new string, that should be translated
2007-12-20T14:57:02  <johill> will think about that another day
2007-12-20T15:05:11  <dreimark> johill: i am invited to a birthday today ;) and will test it later, thanks!
2007-12-20T15:21:05  <dreimark> bbl
2007-12-20T15:23:53  <xorAxAx> seems like thomas doesnt care :)
2007-12-20T15:25:10  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: happy birthday 2u2 :)
2007-12-20T15:25:13  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: thanks
2007-12-20T15:25:18  <xorAxAx> hehe
2007-12-20T15:25:31  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks *
2007-12-20T15:34:31  <rafael> xorAxAx: i want to implent sort-sring (see vcard rfc http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2426.html).. if i have n=foo bar and sort-string on bar, it should get displayed as bar foo?
2007-12-20T15:36:51  <xorAxAx> no
2007-12-20T15:36:55  <xorAxAx> Bar, Foo
2007-12-20T15:37:13  <xorAxAx> but i think this is not very important because you can only show one vcard
2007-12-20T15:38:43  <rafael> xorAxAx: one vcard?
2007-12-20T15:39:52  <xorAxAx> rafael: well, the parser cannot show more than one card, can it?
2007-12-20T15:39:59  <rafael> true
2007-12-20T15:40:09  <xorAxAx> so you dont need to sort
2007-12-20T15:41:10  <rafael> xorAxAx: i thought if i have N=MyFirstName, MyLastName and sort-string on MyLastName i order the output of the first- and lastname
2007-12-20T15:43:19  <xorAxAx> rafael: no
2007-12-20T15:43:31  <xorAxAx> see the example in the rfc
2007-12-20T15:44:00  <rafael> ok, so i must not implent
2007-12-20T15:44:07  <xorAxAx> yes
2007-12-20T15:49:55  <rafael> i'll print a "not supported" in the value field of sort-string whether it's used
2007-12-20T15:50:51  <xorAxAx> no
2007-12-20T15:50:54  <xorAxAx> dont display it at all
2007-12-20T15:50:55  <xorAxAx> hide it
2007-12-20T15:56:37  <rafael> xorAxAx: how to present revision? i mean a datetime object.. in which format?
2007-12-20T15:57:18  <xorAxAx> in the same way, the page modification is printed as well
2007-12-20T15:57:28  <xorAxAx> s/printed/formatted/
2007-12-20T17:33:07  <rafael> xorAxAx: hm, is it correct, that 1995-10-31T22\:27\:10Z is also a valid date-time-value for vcards? i didn't find a precise definition for vcards
2007-12-20T17:34:03  <xorAxAx> no idea - what does the rfc say?
2007-12-20T17:37:03  <rafael> xorAxAx: "date-time-value = <A single date-time value as defined in [MIME-DIR]" in the grammar
2007-12-20T17:37:24  <xorAxAx> and what does MIME-DIR say about date time values? :)
2007-12-20T17:39:12  <rafael> xorAxAx: where/what's that?
2007-12-20T17:39:54  <xorAxAx> look at the literature section
2007-12-20T17:39:56  <xorAxAx> for a cross ref
2007-12-20T17:41:50  <rafael> thanks, that helps
2007-12-20T17:46:19  <rafael> xorAxAx: there is nothing mentioned about \: or alternative separations.. but the generator on http://vcardmaker.wackomenace.co.uk/ returned REV:2007-12-16T17\:36\:30Z as REV.. how must the regex look like?
2007-12-20T17:47:37  <xorAxAx> well, thats the usual iso time
2007-12-20T17:47:53  <xorAxAx> the one our datetime macro is already accepting
2007-12-20T17:48:10  <rafael> so how should i format it? after which rules?
2007-12-20T17:50:07  <xorAxAx> see the datetime macro
2007-12-20T17:53:06  <rafael> xorAxAx: isn't it located in MoinMoin/macro/DateTime.py?
2007-12-20T17:53:36  <xorAxAx> or in MoinMoin.macro
2007-12-20T17:59:22  <rafael> xorAxAx: hm?
2007-12-20T18:00:02  <xorAxAx> rafael: whats unclear?
2007-12-20T18:00:06  <xorAxAx> thats a package
2007-12-20T18:00:16  <rafael> ah, the __init__.py :)
2007-12-20T18:03:18  <kikka> Good Evening.
2007-12-20T18:03:28  <rafael> hi kikka
2007-12-20T18:03:48  <rafael> but i shouldn't calcutate the tz offset because the tz gets also displayed
2007-12-20T18:04:53  <xorAxAx> it doesnt make sense user-wise to only display the tz as a separate field
2007-12-20T18:07:06  <rafael> xorAxAx: but in the DateTime macro is written         elif len(args) >= 19 and args[4] == '-' and args[7] == '-' and args[10] == 'T' and args[13] == ':' and args[16] == ':': - but YYYYMMDDHHMMSS is valid, too
2007-12-20T18:08:25  <xorAxAx> rafael: hmm?
2007-12-20T18:08:55  <kikka> Hi Rafael
2007-12-20T18:10:16  <rafael> xorAxAx: see RFC 2425 Examples for "date-time": [...] 19960811T123456Z
2007-12-20T18:11:25  <xorAxAx> rafael: well, then factor out the parser and fix it if you like
2007-12-20T18:39:26  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: thanks, happy birthday :)
2007-12-20T18:42:27  <kikka> Congratulation, Johill!
2007-12-20T18:44:09  <rafael> xorAxAx: at the end can a timezone can get appended.. in the DateTime is the realtime calculated  with the offset but i think it would be nicer just to print the offset after the date-time
2007-12-20T18:45:28  <xorAxAx> rafael: yes, makes sense
2007-12-20T18:46:03  <rafael> xorAxAx: but how looks such a tz at the end? i didn't find an example
2007-12-20T18:46:05  <xorAxAx> e.g. evolution shows my local time in the list view and the senders local time in the header lines in the mail view
2007-12-20T18:46:21  <xorAxAx> rafael: 0000 or 0100 i guess
2007-12-20T18:46:30  <xorAxAx> after the Z
2007-12-20T18:46:40  <xorAxAx> hmm, maybe with a +
2007-12-20T18:46:44  <xorAxAx> there is nothing in the rfc?
2007-12-20T18:46:47  <rafael> with + or - i guess (guess with help of the __getDate function)
2007-12-20T18:46:51  <rafael> xorAxAx: nope
2007-12-20T18:47:46  * xorAxAx handles #87
2007-12-20T18:55:55  <rafael> is there an icon for sounds like it is for mails?
2007-12-20T18:58:47  <xorAxAx> i dont think o
2007-12-20T18:58:49  <xorAxAx> so
2007-12-20T19:01:08  <rafael> xorAxAx: should i disable sound support at all or check for binary/sound link and display the link then
2007-12-20T19:01:19  <xorAxAx> rafael: just hide it
2007-12-20T19:01:31  <xorAxAx> it doesnt make sense to show all fields of the vcard
2007-12-20T19:03:47  * starshine heard icon!
2007-12-20T19:07:41  <rafael> xorAxAx: should i also hide N? it's almost always the same like FN
2007-12-20T19:09:39  <xorAxAx> N?
2007-12-20T19:09:42  <xorAxAx> what is N?
2007-12-20T19:10:30  <rafael> xorAxAx: (family-name, given-name, additional-name, honorific-prefix, honorific-suffix)
2007-12-20T19:10:44  <rafael> in most vcards it's just last_name;first_name
2007-12-20T19:11:18  <rafael> or i format FN after it
2007-12-20T19:12:24  <xorAxAx> do something that makes sense for the user :)
2007-12-20T19:13:00  <rafael> but the (family-name, ..) stuff is added to hcard, so not possible for vcards :|
2007-12-20T19:13:53  <rafael> oh no, i see it's in the vcard rfc, too
2007-12-20T19:44:22  <rafael> xorAxAx: i just saw your comment on #58. why make this more user-friendly?
2007-12-20T19:44:35  <xorAxAx> rafael: hmm?
2007-12-20T19:44:41  <xorAxAx> rafael: i already explained it to you
2007-12-20T19:44:56  <rafael> ah, you meant this ^^ kk
2007-12-20T19:45:54  <xorAxAx> have a look at groupware clients and how they display vcards
2007-12-20T19:48:22  <rafael> xorAxAx: groupware clients?
2007-12-20T19:48:38  <rafael> like evolution etc. ?
2007-12-20T19:49:17  <xorAxAx> outlook, lotus notes, ksomething etc.
2007-12-20T20:00:37  <tuxella> lo ppl
2007-12-20T20:06:53  <dreimark> bb
2007-12-20T20:09:28  * rafael commented issue #58
2007-12-20T20:17:11  <grzywa> re
2007-12-20T20:43:19  <rafael> xorAxAx: could you please review? today is enddate
2007-12-20T20:48:16  <xorAxAx> i will have a look later tonight, yes
2007-12-20T20:48:29  <xorAxAx> rafael: can you please factor out commonly used code in both parsers?
2007-12-20T20:48:42  <xorAxAx> you need e.g. the table code only once
2007-12-20T20:49:31  <rafael> xorAxAx: it is, i import the main function from text_x_hcard in which the tables get written
2007-12-20T20:49:38  <xorAxAx> ok
2007-12-20T20:53:22  <dreimark> xorAxAx: we do have mostly # -*- coding: iso-8859-1 -*-. What's you opinion for changing to utf-8 to get a student name right written?
2007-12-20T20:54:51  <johill> I'm all for utf-8
2007-12-20T20:55:07  <johill> he who still uses crap editors that can't talk that deserves "to be taken out back and shot"
2007-12-20T20:55:33  <xorAxAx> dreimark: i dont care, utf-8 is kind of fine
2007-12-20T20:55:39  <dreimark> ok
2007-12-20T20:55:48  <xorAxAx> the editor will notice the encoding automatically anyway
2007-12-20T20:58:05  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, thanks for the socks proxy advice the other month, my ISP is going crazy again. ;)
2007-12-20T20:58:23  <xorAxAx> hehe
2007-12-20T21:01:25  <kikka> Hmpf. No answer from web.de jet. :/
2007-12-20T21:01:36  <kikka> Should I write to another company?
2007-12-20T21:01:38  <johill> they have a jet now? ;)
2007-12-20T21:02:10  <kikka> yet, well.
2007-12-20T21:02:20  <xorAxAx> kikka: as i said nearly a week ago, you should do so, yes :)
2007-12-20T21:02:28  <xorAxAx> but now its a bit pointless because of xmas
2007-12-20T21:02:35  <kikka> Indeed.
2007-12-20T21:02:39  <kikka> A week ago?
2007-12-20T21:02:40  <kikka> Ok.
2007-12-20T21:02:49  <kikka> It's only 2 days ago.
2007-12-20T21:06:00  * xorAxAx checks irclogs
2007-12-20T21:06:22  <xorAxAx> monday
2007-12-20T21:06:45  <xorAxAx> thats nearly a work week
2007-12-20T21:08:44  <kikka> Oh. Monday?
2007-12-20T21:08:48  <kikka> *look*
2007-12-20T21:09:14  <kikka> 19.12.2007 15:45
2007-12-20T21:09:16  <kikka> yesterday
2007-12-20T21:11:03  <xorAxAx> yes
2007-12-20T21:11:36  <kikka> hence with this contact lenses.
2007-12-20T21:41:19  <dreimark> hmm, may be should add a mimetype to CHANGES
2007-12-20T22:46:41  <kikka> Good Night.
2007-12-20T22:49:51  <dreimark> gn kikka
2007-12-20T23:21:03  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2007-12-20T23:43:48  <xorAxAx> rafael: please dont forget unittests
2007-12-20T23:46:47  <dreimark> rafael: I filed a bug to the issue tracker
2007-12-20T23:47:17  <dreimark> gn
2007-12-20T23:53:31  <ricardo-fang> grzywacz , about issue 84... i would like to show you the output from running the notification bot. MoinMoin itself is not running so it returned some XMPP errors, besides this i think its working
2007-12-20T23:53:54  <grzywacz> ricardo-fang, please do.
2007-12-20T23:54:03  <grzywacz> ricardo-fang, can you talk to it via jabber? Does it respond?
2007-12-20T23:55:04  <ricardo-fang> actually i have only one account in jabber-based messengers... Using GTALK. Give me a minute and i can install it and login to see if it answer
2007-12-20T23:55:24  <grzywacz> Give me the JID and I can talk to test it.
2007-12-20T23:55:36  <grzywacz> :)
2007-12-20T23:56:31  <ricardo-fang> http://pastebin.ca/825999 (output)... the bot is running as ricardo.fang@gmail.com on Google Talk
2007-12-20T23:57:05  <grzywacz> The resource is..?
2007-12-20T23:57:49  <grzywacz> uh
2007-12-20T23:58:43  <ricardo-fang> One question.. the username is "xmpp_node" and the password is "xmpp_password"... but maybe for using Jabber very little i still do not get what "xmpp_resource" is :$
2007-12-20T23:59:16  <grzywacz> Full Jabber id looks like: user@node/resource
2007-12-20T23:59:22  <grzywacz> Where resource identifies a specific client.
2007-12-20T23:59:36  <grzywacz> Because you can have multiple programs using the same jabber account.