MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-05-11

2007-05-11T10:31:01  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-05-11T13:32:53  <ser> sorry for lame question, but i forgot, how can i get current page name in a macro?
2007-05-11T14:37:46  <johill> huh
2007-05-11T14:37:48  <johill> interesting bug
2007-05-11T14:43:27  <johill> MoinMoinBugs/1.6NoURLsAfterBlock
2007-05-11T15:10:44  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: I am looking at it in a few minutes.
2007-05-11T15:12:18  <johill> no worries, just ran across it, workaround is easy enough
2007-05-11T15:13:06  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, no, must go to a customer emergency...
2007-05-11T15:13:10  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
2007-05-11T15:23:50  <johill> dreimark: how's your gallery stuff in moin doing? ;)
2007-05-11T15:23:53  <johill> "So I'm looking for suggestions for a Gallery replacement that isn't PHP based. I'm also looking for the moon on a stick. If you have a suggestion for either of these, please direct them to psn at debconf.org . Ta Muchly, Pete "
2007-05-11T15:26:42  <dreimark> johill: it needs a bit refactored currently for 1.6. I want to remove the flash stuff. And probaly with some more refactoring it could be implemented into 1.7
2007-05-11T15:28:10  <dreimark> johill: we do use it for several of our project wikis showing model output or images
2007-05-11T15:43:54  <johill> :)
2007-05-11T16:32:31  <dreimark> Hmm, on MM someone could attach a file to an already deleted page
2007-05-11T16:35:59  <johill> hm
2007-05-11T16:36:04  <johill> we really need email notification for attached files
2007-05-11T16:36:13  <johill> we've had somebody abuse a wiki as file storage
2007-05-11T16:45:01  <dreimark> johill: Do we want that for 1.6? If so we can use PageEditor._notifySubscribers(comment, trivial) for that in Attachfile.add_attachment
2007-05-11T16:51:22  <johill> I would really like to see that, but whether it's for 1.6 or not... dunno
2007-05-11T16:58:09  <grzywacz> moin
2007-05-11T18:31:39  <dreimark> bbl some hours
2007-05-11T19:15:22  *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ
2007-05-11T20:07:03  <johill> _keturn: I decided to unsubscribe from various openid lists (general, specs) and only stayed on security for now, let me know if there are any library updates by posting a message to moin wiki or something
2007-05-11T20:07:25  <johill> _keturn: or I'll just find out later :)
2007-05-11T20:08:55  <keturn> johill: okay
2007-05-11T20:09:13  <keturn> would you subscribe to an -announce list if there was one of those?
2007-05-11T20:09:19  <johill> I just couldn't cope with the mail volume any more, just killed 20 subscriptions
2007-05-11T20:09:23  <johill> yes, I would, for sure
2007-05-11T20:28:17  <johill> _keturn: let me know if there's an announce list :)
2007-05-11T20:28:40  <johill> I wouldn't mind it being just openid-announce so various folks could announce things there
2007-05-11T21:52:07  <grzywacz> Is page uniquely identified by its url? :-)
2007-05-11T21:52:44  <grzywacz> (and fully?)
2007-05-11T21:52:46  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: yes, there might be normalisation issues, though
2007-05-11T21:52:55  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: but better is Interwikiname:pagename
2007-05-11T21:53:09  <xorAxAx> even though interwikiname is not always set nor unique
2007-05-11T21:53:15  <grzywacz> So like: MoinMoin:foo/bar ?
2007-05-11T21:53:24  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: wiki sync uses an IWID to mitigate that issue
2007-05-11T21:53:25  <xorAxAx> yes
2007-05-11T21:53:30  <xorAxAx> IWID = interwiki id
2007-05-11T21:53:36  <xorAxAx> a simple hex code that is auto generated
2007-05-11T21:53:52  <xorAxAx> you can query it via the config
2007-05-11T21:55:08  <grzywacz> I'm just wondering how to create an url to a changed page that's to be send via jabber so that it will be correct. Also, a direct link to a page displaying changes made should be sent as well.
2007-05-11T21:58:16  <xorAxAx> page.link_to() or .url()?
2007-05-11T22:01:30  <grzywacz> :-)
2007-05-11T22:35:14  <grzywacz> Hm, I think that java-style names for xmlrpc method calls will be a better idea than current ones, given that the ones defined by xmlrpc2wiki follow that convention.
2007-05-11T22:35:29  <grzywacz> (current ones == as proposed so far ;>)
2007-05-11T22:37:22  <johill> grzywacz, xorAxAx: what was that about in-band signalling
2007-05-11T22:37:25  <johill> "username of change's author (or a special name for not logged in users, preferably with otherwise disallowed characters like: "!NOT LOGGED IN!""
2007-05-11T22:37:49  <johill> how about an extra flags field "no_username" instead?
2007-05-11T22:37:56  <johill> or no_author or something
2007-05-11T22:37:56  <grzywacz> ack
2007-05-11T22:38:08  <grzywacz> That's better.
2007-05-11T23:33:58  <ThomasWaldmann> re