MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-05-07

2007-05-07T10:32:17  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: you added new wiki mail import config options but didnt add them to HelpOnConfiguration
2007-05-07T11:06:23  <xorAxAx> OMG, caching bug
2007-05-07T11:06:34  <xorAxAx> i renamed a page and it didnt notice that the old page is gone
2007-05-07T11:08:42  <xorAxAx> and now its throwing exceptions
2007-05-07T11:08:45  <xorAxAx> (in 1.6)
2007-05-07T11:12:12  <xorAxAx> "Ihr Entwurf basierend auf Revision 0 (gespeichert 2007-04-30 13:15:55 kann anstatt der aktuellen Revision 0 geladen werden, indem Sie den Knopf Entwurf laden drücken (falls Sie Ihre letzten Änderungen verloren haben, bevor Sie sie gespeichert hatten)."
2007-05-07T11:12:16  <xorAxAx> OMG
2007-05-07T12:53:08  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: there is a 1.6 todo page :)
2007-05-07T13:15:14  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: is there a log entry about the old page?
2007-05-07T13:16:45  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: yes
2007-05-07T13:22:04  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: afaics, there is only an entry for the new page (but it has the old pagename in extra field)
2007-05-07T13:23:09  <ThomasWaldmann> so we either have to use that or make an extra entry for the old page
2007-05-07T13:56:05  <xorAxAx> OMG, the search is totally broken
2007-05-07T13:56:13  <xorAxAx> fpletz:
2007-05-07T13:56:23  <xorAxAx> nearly nothing from HelpOnSearching is working
2007-05-07T14:06:46  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: you are a believer? :)
2007-05-07T14:06:59  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: you were the mentor :-p
2007-05-07T14:08:30  <ThomasWaldmann> no, I was the helper :-P
2007-05-07T14:16:00  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: btw, a bit more concrete stuff in form of a bug report would for sure help better than "OMG,..."
2007-05-07T14:16:28  <xorAxAx> will follow :)
2007-05-07T14:16:37  <xorAxAx> maybe even a bug fix
2007-05-07T14:35:18  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: it lost the capability to search for regex in the title
2007-05-07T14:35:48  <xorAxAx> i am currently debugging it
2007-05-07T16:45:42  <CIA-27> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> * 2054:3068e8114dd3 1.6/docs/CHANGES: Added CHANGES remark about hierarchical ACLs.
2007-05-07T17:28:53  * ThomasWaldmann runs memtest over 16G :D
2007-05-07T17:37:49  <ThomasWaldmann> at least his irc client is with us :D
2007-05-07T20:57:26  <CIA-27> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> * 2055:b5270fcb9b6f 1.6/MoinMoin/logfile/editlog.py: for SAVE/RENAME log entries we also announce the old pagename in news()
2007-05-07T20:58:03  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: try if that fixes the problem
2007-05-07T20:59:22  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: will do
2007-05-07T21:57:56  <dreimark> fixing macro Action
2007-05-07T22:51:30  <CIA-27> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 2056:dc9a3809af61 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/Action.py: macro.Action: fixed bug in getValidActions (don't nest lists)
2007-05-07T23:08:03  <dreimark> xorAxAx: hierarchical acls: if I have excluded a user form one page level and do want him give rights on the next level
2007-05-07T23:08:11  <dreimark> how did i do this easily
2007-05-07T23:10:13  <xorAxAx> dreimark: please refine "one page level"
2007-05-07T23:10:17  <xorAxAx> use lower and upper
2007-05-07T23:10:38  <xorAxAx> lower = cleaning clerk, higher = ackermann
2007-05-07T23:11:01  <xorAxAx> umm, lower == A/B/C, higher = A
2007-05-07T23:11:48  <dreimark> ok, A/B/C/D on B #acl test: and he should get access for C
2007-05-07T23:12:09  <dreimark> and followings
2007-05-07T23:13:18  <dreimark> we dont have a possibility to go to defaults only by using groups or?
2007-05-07T23:14:57  <dreimark> if I don't use groups do I have to enter the values of acl_rights_default ?
2007-05-07T23:19:15  <xorAxAx> dreimark: just write #acl test:read onto C
2007-05-07T23:19:18  <xorAxAx> dreimark: that will do it
2007-05-07T23:22:49  <dreimark> xorAxAx: doing that only test is able to read that page
2007-05-07T23:23:25  <xorAxAx> dreimark: there is Default
2007-05-07T23:23:38  <xorAxAx> or was it Default:?
2007-05-07T23:25:13  <dreimark> moment
2007-05-07T23:32:26  <dreimark> xorAxAx: the logic is ok, the handling could become difficult if you dont have before rights
2007-05-07T23:32:47  <xorAxAx> dreimark: give an example
2007-05-07T23:34:41  <dreimark> setup is default wikiconfig no before rights
2007-05-07T23:35:01  <xorAxAx> yes
2007-05-07T23:35:05  <dreimark> I start with page A without entering acls, so all do have default rights
2007-05-07T23:39:08  <dreimark> on B I want exclude a user #acl test: All:read,write,admin
2007-05-07T23:39:57  <dreimark> there is no way to get default acls back
2007-05-07T23:40:42  <dreimark> on page C, the wiki admin knows them only
2007-05-07T23:41:02  <dreimark> while on page A you have default rights
2007-05-07T23:41:18  <xorAxAx> dreimark: there is, add Default at the end
2007-05-07T23:42:48  <dreimark> xorAxAx: wow I missed that point :)
2007-05-07T23:44:01  <xorAxAx> and i dont see how this is hierachical ACL specific :)
2007-05-07T23:44:15  <xorAxAx> default acls are used for every hierachy
2007-05-07T23:44:21  <xorAxAx> hmm, no
2007-05-07T23:45:53  <dreimark> if you add acls then those overwrite default
2007-05-07T23:45:54  <xorAxAx> indeed, default is just checked if there were no ACLs
2007-05-07T23:46:05  <xorAxAx> which is a sane idea
2007-05-07T23:49:47  <dreimark> if you miss to add rights for yourself on B and dont have before rights your knocked out too
2007-05-07T23:51:14  <xorAxAx> how can you edit it if you didnt have rights before?
2007-05-07T23:53:51  <dreimark> acl_rights_default is set but  acl_rights_before not
2007-05-07T23:54:17  <dreimark> so i can edit every page
2007-05-07T23:54:33  <xorAxAx> well, then you have admin rights for A and can add yourself there
2007-05-07T23:56:34  <dreimark> I like this feature but I am thinking about what kind of failures users will trap
2007-05-07T23:56:52  <dreimark> and if some don't do this or that better should be described
2007-05-07T23:57:25  <dreimark> no idea if they read that
2007-05-07T23:59:14  <xorAxAx> well, your last scenario is agnostic when it comes to acl_hierarchic
2007-05-07T23:59:31  <xorAxAx> MMDE can trip it easily already because of its ACL defs