MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2006-02-25

2006-02-25T00:45:40  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: can you check why the logfile of the 22th is missing in the wiki?
2006-02-25T00:52:01  <xorAxAx> the file permissions are correct
2006-02-25T00:53:17  * ThomasWaldmann rewrites filter stuff right now
2006-02-25T00:54:17  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: dont forget to check that, the other days work
2006-02-25T00:54:30  <xorAxAx> btw, your URL class is 95% boiler plate code :-/
2006-02-25T00:55:16  <ThomasWaldmann> what is boiler plate code?
2006-02-25T00:55:57  <xorAxAx> code that is stuffed onto other code in a bloatish manner to make something work, often appearing together with code duplication etc.
2006-02-25T00:56:15  <xorAxAx> you have quite many set, get, del methods
2006-02-25T00:56:45  <xorAxAx> shortening that into less lines should be possible
2006-02-25T00:56:54  <xorAxAx> but the class has still the problem of using urlparse :)
2006-02-25T00:57:57  <ThomasWaldmann> either make more concrete suggestions or just do it
2006-02-25T00:58:59  <xorAxAx> i will spend time on the url class in march, then i will check/fix the code in detail ...
2006-02-25T00:59:16  <xorAxAx> irssi was unusable for 10 seconds again ...
2006-02-25T00:59:20  <xorAxAx> (load of 12)
2006-02-25T01:18:43  <xorAxAx> ah, the reason could be an empty logfile
2006-02-25T01:20:01  <xorAxAx> my cron script wasnt configured correctly, fixed
2006-02-25T01:20:35  <xorAxAx> and the file doesnt exist at all :)
2006-02-25T01:34:05  <ThomasWaldmann> waah, *.patch -> application/octet-stream
2006-02-25T06:07:08  <macdet> moin, anybody here :)
2006-02-25T10:12:08  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2006-02-25T13:35:11  <ThomasWaldmann> Fabi: the performance issues we had a week ago seem to have gone by disabling lupy again
2006-02-25T13:37:08  <ThomasWaldmann> my current suspicion is that the pagename backlink search maybe triggers those performance problems
2006-02-25T13:37:42  <ThomasWaldmann> as it is a GET, some misbehaved bots might trigger that to often
2006-02-25T13:51:36  <Fabi> hmm
2006-02-25T13:53:02  <xorAxAx> without profiling, its merely guessing
2006-02-25T13:53:35  <Fabi> lupy should be faster than full search...
2006-02-25T13:58:39  <ThomasWaldmann> Fabi: i have added attachments index data
2006-02-25T13:59:22  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: didnt you say that it reindexes for every page save?
2006-02-25T13:59:28  <xorAxAx> that increases load as well
2006-02-25T13:59:40  <Fabi> on the other hand it it possible that the missig otimization breaks the performance...
2006-02-25T13:59:41  <xorAxAx> and doesnt work if you just attach but not save
2006-02-25T13:59:41  <ThomasWaldmann> in my last commit i added an image/* audio/* video/* filter simply returning u""
2006-02-25T14:00:08  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: images could be filtered for DCIF data
2006-02-25T14:00:20  <Fabi> but you are adding the name?
2006-02-25T14:00:29  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: see my comments in the filters
2006-02-25T14:00:48  <ThomasWaldmann> Fabi: filename is like page title
2006-02-25T14:02:10  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: i doubt we have so many saves that reindexing the saved single page + attachments is a problem
2006-02-25T14:02:49  <xorAxAx> but lupy adds the data again and again, doesnt it?
2006-02-25T14:03:34  <Fabi> yes, kind of
2006-02-25T14:06:05  <xorAxAx> and wikisandbox et al. have many attachments
2006-02-25T14:08:17  <ThomasWaldmann> a full index run takes 1100-2000s for some thousand pages
2006-02-25T14:08:32  <ThomasWaldmann> so a single page takes sub-second
2006-02-25T14:09:17  <xorAxAx> i am talking about attachments
2006-02-25T14:09:47  * ThomasWaldmann too
2006-02-25T14:15:35  <xorAxAx> no, you are mixing both ;-)
2006-02-25T14:17:20  <ThomasWaldmann> index run means it does all
2006-02-25T14:17:41  <ThomasWaldmann> of course this is a mean value, no the maximum
2006-02-25T14:17:47  <ThomasWaldmann> t
2006-02-25T14:18:41  <xorAxAx> and the biggest factor: it just does every item one time and not multiple times
2006-02-25T14:30:21  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, gtg...
2006-02-25T23:07:50  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: where did you read about "Blickfangpunkt"?
2006-02-25T23:08:04  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: i am having mainly american hits and moinmoin hits in google about it
2006-02-25T23:08:42  <xorAxAx> (i.e. of programs originating in america with possibly disregardful translation work)