1 2012-05-27T01:22:46 *** spy
2 2012-05-27T03:42:35 *** sudo_dirk
3 2012-05-27T03:57:22 *** sudo_dirk
4 2012-05-27T06:37:54 *** dwcramer
5 2012-05-27T07:01:19 *** dwcramer
6 2012-05-27T07:12:57 <dreimark> ronny: eSyr-ng we have something similar for the tar items already
7 2012-05-27T07:13:44 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
8 2012-05-27T07:14:16 <dreimark> there you have different items together in one item
9 2012-05-27T07:34:44 *** dwcramer
10 2012-05-27T09:46:15 *** jaiditya|2
11 2012-05-27T09:50:09 <ronny> dreimark: o, i see
12 2012-05-27T12:46:29 *** kanha_
13 2012-05-27T12:47:05 *** kanha
14 2012-05-27T12:59:30 <eSyr-ng> dreimark: not precisely, i think, ronny wants collections of precise versions of some items.
15 2012-05-27T13:00:05 <eSyr-ng> dreimark: or it stores these items inside itself?
16 2012-05-27T13:04:36 <ronny> eSyr-ng: ThomasWaldmann gave that one already the yagni threatment tho
17 2012-05-27T13:05:19 *** jaiditya
18 2012-05-27T13:25:23 *** spy
19 2012-05-27T13:52:26 *** DasIch
20 2012-05-27T13:52:26 *** vpv
21 2012-05-27T14:07:12 <dreimark> eSyr-ng: no that is different the drawing item has only one meta but a png, svg etc inside
22 2012-05-27T14:07:24 <dreimark> all together is one revision
23 2012-05-27T14:08:11 <eSyr-ng> ah, see.
24 2012-05-27T14:08:30 <eSyr-ng> i think it's not what ronny wants (as i understood).
25 2012-05-27T14:09:04 <dreimark> yagni == You Ain't Gonna Need It
26 2012-05-27T14:09:38 <eSyr-ng> ah.
27 2012-05-27T14:10:20 <eSyr-ng> should checked unusual work on urbandictionary.
28 2012-05-27T14:10:36 <eSyr-ng> *should check
29 2012-05-27T14:10:41 <eSyr-ng> mmm.
30 2012-05-27T14:11:10 <eSyr-ng> (should have been checked or something, nod sure about proper tense)
31 2012-05-27T14:11:17 <eSyr-ng> *not
32 2012-05-27T14:14:02 <dreimark> i googled for it
33 2012-05-27T14:14:53 <eSyr-ng> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yagni
34 2012-05-27T14:15:23 *** DasIch
35 2012-05-27T14:15:23 *** vpv
36 2012-05-27T14:17:17 <dreimark> bookmarked
37 2012-05-27T14:18:03 <dreimark> much different from the one *zing
38 2012-05-27T14:37:25 *** betelgeuse_
39 2012-05-27T14:59:37 <dreimark> bbl
40 2012-05-27T15:00:03 *** DasIch_
41 2012-05-27T15:01:23 *** DasIch
42 2012-05-27T15:01:24 *** DasIch_
43 2012-05-27T15:30:17 *** dwcramer
44 2012-05-27T15:30:32 *** kanha_
45 2012-05-27T15:30:48 *** kanha
46 2012-05-27T16:15:48 *** progmanos1
47 2012-05-27T16:18:30 <progmanos1> Hello, I sent an email to the mailing list offering to help writing the code to convert fom Confluence to MoinMoin
48 2012-05-27T16:28:26 <ThomasWaldmann> hi progmanos1
49 2012-05-27T16:35:25 <progmanos1> I am reading the current code of the confluence converter
50 2012-05-27T17:11:41 *** xiaq
51 2012-05-27T17:15:28 <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: can you give an url?
52 2012-05-27T17:16:14 * ThomasWaldmann brb
53 2012-05-27T18:03:56 <progmanos1> https://gitorious.org/confluence2moinmoin
54 2012-05-27T18:15:00 <ThomasWaldmann> don't see much stuff there, is that all?
55 2012-05-27T18:39:11 <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1:
56 2012-05-27T19:25:52 <waldi> we had a project proposal for gsoc last year to do such a converter
57 2012-05-27T20:20:59 <CIA-146> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5862:5b92be3da023 1.9/MoinMoin/macro/AdvancedSearch.py: work around crash of AdvancedSearch macro rendering caused by non-ascii mimetypes.types_map entries
58 2012-05-27T20:59:31 *** dwcramer
59 2012-05-27T21:53:07 <eSyr-ng> cool bug ^^^
60 2012-05-27T21:53:58 <ThomasWaldmann> teh joys of unknown encodings :|
61 2012-05-27T21:55:52 <eSyr-ng> interesting, how many software also became broken with this addition in Fedora.
62 2012-05-27T21:56:07 <eSyr-ng> Because Fedora 13 is something about 2 years ago.
63 2012-05-27T22:04:24 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, you googled for such issues? :)
64 2012-05-27T22:04:39 * ThomasWaldmann suspected this breaks lots of stuff, but didn't search
65 2012-05-27T22:05:01 <ThomasWaldmann> and the root cause is of course lack of specification
66 2012-05-27T22:20:09 *** jaiditya
67 2012-05-27T22:43:06 <spy> ThomasWaldmann: what things are most important for me to implement or work on now?
68 2012-05-27T22:48:43 <ThomasWaldmann> spy: well, as you have nothing yet, i guess you have a wide choice
69 2012-05-27T22:55:29 <spy> ThomasWaldmann: I want to work on a new item for blogpost and related to it +publish action.
70 2012-05-27T22:57:45 <eSyr-ng> spy: well, in moin 1.9, if you want non-public draft, you just setup acl accordingly.
71 2012-05-27T22:58:02 <eSyr-ng> i don't think there is need in special mechanism in moin2.x
72 2012-05-27T23:01:16 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr-ng: i guess we need ptime primarily for sort order
73 2012-05-27T23:02:10 <ThomasWaldmann> so that editing a blog entry does not make it a NEW entry, except if you decide so by also updating ptime
74 2012-05-27T23:04:18 <progmanos1> It seems like someone started on the converter but didn't get very far
75 2012-05-27T23:04:32 <ThomasWaldmann> as another usage of that, the blog would not show future ptime entries
76 2012-05-27T23:06:49 <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: yes
77 2012-05-27T23:09:19 <spy> ThomasWaldmann: 151
78 2012-05-27T23:11:11 <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: as I already told previously, the converter could use some moin2 infrastructure
79 2012-05-27T23:11:56 <ThomasWaldmann> like converting confluence markup to dom-tree (converter does not exist), dom-tree to moinmoin markup (converter does exist)
80 2012-05-27T23:12:57 <ThomasWaldmann> that's likely cleaner than the usual quick hacks done for wiki conversions
81 2012-05-27T23:14:31 <ThomasWaldmann> also, moin2 has a read-only fs19 "like moin 1.9 filesystem storage" backend, but it is read-only. maybe it could be extended to be able to also write. would be more useful than doing the same code as part of a quickhack.
82 2012-05-27T23:15:12 *** dwcramer
83 2012-05-27T23:21:13 <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: a side effect of going the dom-converter way for confluence markup is that this would NOT be one-time usage throw-away code, but be useful also for the use case "use confluence markup in moin2"
84 2012-05-27T23:24:28 <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: if you'ld like to work on anything moin2-related, i can help you getting started (but I can't help much with writing all the code needed)
85 2012-05-27T23:28:58 <ThomasWaldmann> (and if you do moin2 stuff, I'ld like it to be in a hg cloned repo, not git, for obvious reasons)
86 2012-05-27T23:30:56 <progmanos1> Okay.
87 2012-05-27T23:31:05 *** dwcramer
88 2012-05-27T23:33:27 <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: btw, did you read all the stuff from the wiki page? http://moinmo.in/ConfluenceConverter
89 2012-05-27T23:33:44 <ThomasWaldmann> + links
90 2012-05-27T23:37:45 <progmanos1> Yes. I suppose that the first thing to do is compare features of MoinMoin and Confluence. Then I could implement a converter for the features they share, while marking the any missing features in MoinMoin for later development.
91 2012-05-27T23:38:04 <progmanos1> marking any*
92 2012-05-27T23:38:07 <progmanos1> typo
93 2012-05-27T23:43:46 *** dwcramer
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